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Old 02-16-2009, 09:05 AM   #1
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Old 02-16-2009, 09:08 AM   #2
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2 much front brake
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Old 02-16-2009, 09:11 AM   #3
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his tire just popped and he lost it
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Old 02-16-2009, 09:13 AM   #4
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Thats what it looked like to me.
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Old 02-16-2009, 09:14 AM   #5
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It looks to me like the guy who crashed was coming up to the back of the other rider too fast and his solution was to lock the front wheel and crash rather than just going around the slower rider. At least he had the courtesy to take only himself out and not take out the rider in front of him by hitting him from behind.
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Damm, I'm glad I only ride on the street. Nothing bad happens there
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Old 02-16-2009, 09:15 AM   #7
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That was the weirdest wreck I have ever witnessed, he wrecked while straight up and down. I geuss poster number 2 could be right but I didnt see the rear lift at all and I know on my big bike goin into turn 2 at OH raceway I am doin stoppies so who knows.
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Old 02-16-2009, 09:22 AM   #8
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If he would of just stayed on the gas for 2 more seconds, he could of overtaken both riders, and all would of been fine(I think).

You got to give it up to the rider that was filming. Not once, but twice he was forced to avoid hitting something. That'll make you pull into the pits to clean out your leathers!
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If he would of just stayed on the gas for 2 more seconds, he could of overtaken both riders, and all would of been fine(I think).

You got to give it up to the rider that was filming. Not once, but twice he was forced to avoid hitting something. That'll make you pull into the pits to clean out your leathers!


I think the guy made an inappropriate down shift front break doesn't make the rear smoke like that.
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he didnt get a 50 and learn brake control?
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Its a Honda...

as mentioned... too much front brake and rear locked up or rear brake. I cant tell but looks like the rear foot is on the pedal.
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It looks like there might have been some dirt on the track right at that spot.
(You see the brown right before he washed it out)

Bad place to be hard on the brakes.
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:48 AM   #15
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That was the weirdest wreck I have ever witnessed, he wrecked while straight up and down. I geuss poster number 2 could be right but I didnt see the rear lift at all and I know on my big bike goin into turn 2 at OH raceway I am doin stoppies so who knows.
If you look at 40 -41secs you can see the attitude of the bike change but I'm not convinced at all it was caused by the front tyre locking up
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He was not braking that hard when he passed. The back wheel/tire stopped turning (smoke). It doesn't look like the tire blew. I would guess a malfunction - something locked up that back wheel and dumped him, or he somehow found 1st gear by mistake.
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To me it looks like he bombs the down shift which causes the rear tire to loose traction and slide (it comes up slightly and is moving left to right). Where he screws up is that as the rear tire comes around he yanks the front brake transferring all the weight to the front tire.... Hince the front tire giving way (what really caused his crash). Bye bye all traction and hello face plant!

I think if he would have stayed on the gas a bit longer, even after the tire started sliding he would have made it But happened so fast he probably didn't think about much.
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I watched again and this is my next expert theory...

He had all his momentum going to the right.
You see right before he got on the brakes he leaned slightly to the left.
If he even touched those rear brakes with the front loaded while engine braking, that rear would have just flew out from under him to the right.
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v twins are REALLY bad about lucking rear wheel up when down shifting. I have dropped mine down at the wrong moment and it swap on me.
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if you look at his line he could have straight lined it all the way to the apex!!!
It's very very hard to lock the front in a straight line on a dry track with even a half decent tyre unless it was stone cold maybe

I'm with the rear or a malfunction causing the problem
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