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Old 01-20-2006, 07:14 PM   #1
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trey said that someone on here might know what to do about this: last sunday night i was riding home and was really lost right around midtown. there was an accident a couple hours old. single car. no traffic. about 12:30. they were just doing investigation stuff and paper work. a patrol car was blocking the left lane. no lights. noone directing traffic. i eased my bike very slowly around the car in the fully unblocked and clear right lane. almost power walking. about 1/8 of a mile down the road another patrol was blocking the whole road. he waved me down. asked me what i thought i was doing going around the patrol car. wrote me a ticket: "failure to obey officer (traffic control)". i was shocked to say the least. he wouldn't even give me directions on how to get back to my house. any ideas on how to clear up this fackin would be much appreciated. probably even worth a few beers when i see ya.
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Old 01-20-2006, 07:30 PM   #2
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Same happened to me exactly, except I got a wrong way in a one way. I was lost over by surfside and tried to pull into a gas station to ask directions. When I made a left to get onto the street with the gas station a police suburban was blocking the right lane. So I put on my blinker and drove the remaining 30 ft. to the gas station in oncoming lanes that were totally empty (it was 3 a.m.). There was some kind of accident in the road in front of the station and the firefighters told me to leave. I tried to leave and a cop flagged me down and gave me a ticket. I was totally , and then he gave me WRONG directions and I got even more lost. I decided to fight it in court without a lawyer, I pleaded not guilty and they ended up putting me on the stand. I explained the situation(lost, nobody directing traffic, nowhere else to go) and the judge dismissed the case. And the cop was really off when I walked out grinning my off. I think the main reason I got off was that there was no one directing traffic, so emphasize that.
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Old 01-20-2006, 07:34 PM   #3
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Same happened to me exactly, except I got a wrong way in a one way. I was lost over by surfside and tried to pull into a gas station to ask directions. When I made a left to get onto the street with the gas station a police suburban was blocking the right lane. So I put on my blinker and drove the remaining 30 ft. to the gas station in oncoming lanes that were totally empty (it was 3 a.m.). There was some kind of accident in the road in front of the station and the firefighters told me to leave. I tried to leave and a cop flagged me down and gave me a ticket. I was totally , and then he gave me WRONG directions and I got even more lost. I decided to fight it in court without a lawyer, I pleaded not guilty and they ended up putting me on the stand. I explained the situation(lost, nobody directing traffic, nowhere else to go) and the judge dismissed the case. And the cop was really off when I walked out grinning my off. I think the main reason I got off was that there was no one directing traffic, so emphasize that.
cheers... i think i'm gonna go to my hearing and a) hope the cop doesn't show (they usually don't) b) play the poor, lost, good citizen, new to town, minding my own business, wrong place/wrong time card (which are all true for once in my life). is that doesn't work, then fack it. i did my best.
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cheers... i think i'm gonna go to my hearing and a) hope the cop doesn't show (they usually don't) b) play the poor, lost, good citizen, new to town, minding my own business, wrong place/wrong time card (which are all true for once in my life). is that doesn't work, then fack it. i did my best.
Just remember to plead not guilty and you will be good, even if the judge finds you guilty, the worst that will happen will be you have to pay the fine. Which is what you would have to do anyway.

ALWAYS PLEAD NOT GUILTY!
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Just remember to plead not guilty and you will be good, even if the judge finds you guilty, the worst that will happen will be you have to pay the fine. Which is what you would have to do anyway.

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Old 01-20-2006, 09:32 PM   #6
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First off when you goto the court reschedule the hearing. NExt you will be able to lax time as we say and when you go back to court. Please not guilty no matter what anyone tells you. You will be ok cause u can always appeal and believe me with all the problems in Harris County as a whole now they will most likely drop it.
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P.S. dress nice and explain to the judge that you tried flagging down the officer and he just looked at you. Next when the judge asks why u wanted to plead not guilty explain that wanted someone to hear your side of the story and that you are sorry for wasting the courts time but it was due process.
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Old 01-20-2006, 09:43 PM   #8
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Heres what I would do. On your arraignment date, plead not guilty and request a trial by judge or jury. I suggest jury in this situation. From this point on you have two choices. 1) Represent yourself at trial or 2) Hire an attorney to represent you.

If you present the story to the jury just like you have here and ask to present a diagram of the scene on a chalkboard (they're in the courtroom), I'm sure that they will side with you in this matter. If what you say is true and the officer is not directing traffic or had his strobes on that makes your case much better. The ticket that you recieved only applies if you willfully disobeyed a lawful and direct order from a law enforcement officer. If no one instructed you that the street was off limits and there was nothing around (i.e. strobes, barricades, patrol cars blocking the street) then you have something to work with in court.

A few pointers heres for court testimony. Dress nice, don't wear a suit but no jeans/t-shirts, use yes maam /no sir etc, when speaking address the jury not the judge, and don't get an attitude no matter what happens during the proceedings. Hope this helps.
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Take it from someone who used to get tickets often... Don't listen to any above :nono: and get yourself a lawyer... I can't tell you how times they saved my and I can say I have a great record. I've helped some guys on this forum with it (PM Runner for a testimonial of one of the guys I helped with this) and they've all said great things about it. Cheaper to get a lawyer than to pay the ticket AND it doesnt NOT go on your record.

Here's a guy I recommend to anyone..

Rene Gonzales
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And stop posting about this ticket stuff!! there's like 4 or 5 threads already about this... just do a SEARCH!!
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