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Old 02-13-2009, 12:25 AM   #21
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Pretty morbid, CDill.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:30 AM   #22
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Pretty morbid, CDill.
Well, I guess I am taking the long route at proving a point. And my point would be that IF people had actually withnessed this stuff and realized that these are real people. With real families and real friends then all the disrespectful that people post in RIP thread, would nearly cease.

But the problem is that a large majority, as the poll indicates thus far, have NOT witnessed it and think it can't happen to them. Yea, they may SAY, or TYPE that they know the risks involved, but do they really?

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I've seen a guy jump out of a 18th floor dorm room window and go down till he went splat. Thats the only death i've seen in person. Pretty crappy image still with me and was leaving me sleepless for a few months after.
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What I learned from Eric is.... NO ONE IS IMMUNE to their time and place, it can happen to ANYONE OF US at ANYTIME!!

Whether it was at their hands or not, there still gone and that should be respected 1st and foremost. U wanna have a CONSTRUCTIVE and TASTEFUL discussion AFTER you pay your respects and in another thread, about how those of us in the community can learn from the tragedy, great, but it kills me when these fools start FLAMING the deceased for ANYTHING that they could have done wrong as opposed to just simply being respectful of the fallen, as if they themselves are infallible.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:37 AM   #25
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Well, I guess I am taking the long route at proving a point. And my point would be that IF people had actually withnessed this stuff and realized that these are real people. With real families and real friends then all the disrespectful that people post in RIP thread, would nearly cease.

But the problem is that a large majority, as the poll indicates thus far, have NOT witnessed it and think it can't happen to them. Yea, they may SAY, or TYPE that they know the risks involved, but do they really?

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I have witness death firsthand before, just not because of a mc accident. I know full well the risks we take and I know we're not immortal. I agree with your reasoning.

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What I learned from Eric is.... NO ONE IS IMMUNE to their time and place, it can happen to ANYONE OF US at ANYTIME!!

Whether it was at their hands or not, there still gone and that should be respected 1st and foremost. U wanna have a CONSTRUCTIVE and TASTEFUL discussion AFTER you pay your respects and in another thread, about how those of us in the community can learn from the tragedy, great, but it kills me when these fools start FLAMING the deceased for ANYTHING that they could have done wrong as opposed to just simply being respectful of the fallen, as if they themselves are infallible.
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My bff committed suicide when we were 15. At her mom's house just after her death our other bff started telling all her secrets and I will never forget the lesson I learned from that death and funeral.
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Furthermore...

Dr. Phil says that journaling, about grief, can aid in the grieving process.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:42 AM   #27
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I have seen car wreck deaths,self inflicted GS to the head,hanging, and an unknown cause.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:43 AM   #28
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I need to change my vote, I have witnessed a death when I was young, don't know how I could have forgot, I saw a girl about 15 or so on her mountain bike pull out into traffic, and a truck with those extended tow mirrors went by at about 50 or 60 and the mirror hit the girl in the head and she went under the truck. It was the most horrible thing I ever saw and I was maybe 8yo but I remember it like yesterday
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But your point is right on. There are some people here who are incredibly petty and ignorant. I just figure those people to be ignorant little bit**es who will get theirs one day.
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Well, I guess I am taking the long route at proving a point. And my point would be that IF people had actually withnessed this stuff and realized that these are real people. With real families and real friends then all the disrespectful that people post in RIP thread, would nearly cease.

But the problem is that a large majority, as the poll indicates thus far, have NOT witnessed it and think it can't happen to them. Yea, they may SAY, or TYPE that they know the risks involved, but do they really?

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I voted and, thankfully, I've not witnessed a motorcycle death; particularly that of a friend. I think you are spot on about the callousness of some of the threads that follow such a tragedy, much like racer-x's today. Not even 24 hours, and we need to debate whether it's the group's fault the Roderick went down? That was in very poor taste. I'm always shocked at how quickly forum life seems to return to normal after the death of a fellow member on MH. Perhaps that's just the way things are; however, it saddens me.
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+ another one!
See people on here only THINK I'm stupid and full of BS but I'm actually a pretty deep thinker with A OF A LOT OF SENSE

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My bff committed suicide when we were 15. At her mom's house just after her death our other bff started telling all her secrets and I will never forget the lesson I learned from that death and funeral.


I had a close cousin commit suicide, saw him on the scene 2.... that experience DEFINATELY taught me a lot about compassion for thy neighbor, more importantly BEFORE THEY DIE, but ESPECIALLY AFTER...


GREAT hypothesis cdill, I think ur theory is gonna prove true 2!!!

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Old 02-13-2009, 12:53 AM   #32
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Furthermore...

Dr. Phil says that journaling, about grief, can aid in the grieving process.
IMO Dr. Phil IS FOS.......He is just teliing u what some professor told him...I doubt tha MF HAS SEEN some1 head cut off by a train...overdoses...hangings...old people die that dont want to be pounded on...shootings...stabbings.....i could write every1 have seen die before my eyes and it wouldnt help me ....ask our servicemen to write about friends they lost in the war and i think ull find out hes full of ....just my opinion....sorry..back to the thread....but i know what u mean with this post....and think people who like to play monday morning quarterback....r fkn stupid......no respect....we lost a friend....maybe not urs but ours so stfu......
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IMO Dr. Phil IS FOS.......He is just teliing u what some professor told him...I doubt tha MF HAS SEEN some1 head cut off by a train...overdoses...hangings...old people die that dont want to be pounded on...shootings...stabbings.....i could write every1 have seen die before my eyes and it wouldnt help me ....ask our servicemen to write about friends they lost in the war and i think ull find out hes full of ....just my opinion....sorry..back to the thread....but i know what u mean with this post....and think people who like to play monday morning quarterback....r fkn stupid......no respect....we lost a friend....maybe not urs but ours so stfu......
The Dr. Phil reference, was a joke.
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Been reading peoples posts over the last 9 months or so, regarding fallen riders. Some comments, IMO, have been in poor taste....some not.

So I pose the question, how many MHers have ACTUALLY witnessed a death, right before thier own eyes? I'm not talking about knowing someone, I am talking about seeing thier life expire, from a motorcycle accident, right before your own eyes?

It's a yes or no. You either have...or you haven't.

1991, 17yr old kid... was doing an approx 120+ in a 35mph zone around midnight. Locked up the brakes, laid it over... bike impacted the suv at approx 80 mph. Cracked the rear case, bounced the rear of the suv 2-3' off the ground.
Kid flew past the suv, hit/knocked down at least 1 maybe two motorcycles and came to a rest approx 75-100 past the front of the SuV.

There were 4 people in that SuV, one of them a pregnant woman. Had it been a car, rather than an SUV... and/or had the bike not gone done prior to impact, the damage could have been a lot worse.




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No person, for any reason at all, should be made to feel responsible for the death of a fellow rider at any time, no matter what. We are adults and we choose to ride, knowing full well the risks we take everytime we get on the bike.

I'm sorry... I can't blindly agree to this. Was before your time here, but we had a member that went wide in a turn...and ran into another MC, with a pillion. It killed him and the other rider, and landed the pillion in the hospital.
I'm pretty sure, none of them figured that as one of the risks.
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As an ex-firefighter and first responder I saw a lot. I believe when your number is up it's up bike train car heart attack stroke lighting something will get you I have seen a lot of death. I was very angry with for a very long time for some of what I've seen but now have made my peace. I think has his reasons and a place for everything and one. I was in Houston one weekend from school I picked up a buddy of mine at his place and when we left I took a little side road off of gears that I never take and still not sure why I took it then I saw the bike in front of us light it up and take off and I saw him enter the turn but didn't see him go down when I rounded the corner there was still bright green plastic falling from the sky the bike was in the ditch and the guy was half on the curb no gear not even pants I jumped out of my truck with my dismal med pack and we did the best we could till the bird got there but they called it after life flight landed I will never forget the look in his eyes as he slipped out. I never found out his name but I will never forget him rip
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no...

closest was a few years ago I saw some dude life-flighted out of rio bravo when his fott got caught by the rear tire.

killing yourself on a motorcycle is ok. thanks for making more room for the rest of us...

being killed by someone else is murder & should be tried as such.
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In no way, did I EVER imply that I rode responsibly, all the time. So, please do not attempt to make me out to be a hypocrite. Those same roads that those videos were taken, I witnessed a death. You can FULL WELL bet, that I know EXACTLY what my risks are.

Now that you are in the searching mood, how about looking for a disrespectful post made by me, regarding a fallen rider.

Then, you can try to clown me. Until then, have you voted?
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