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Old 02-12-2009, 01:08 AM   #81
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idiots . . in cages . . "get the fk off your gdm cell phone."

pay attention to the road!

fking scum! life in prison for this asshat that ran over rod.

laws re: cell phone use while driving should be enforced in this city.
the DPS has lowered the standards for giving dl's to every idiot with a car.
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Old 02-12-2009, 01:14 AM   #82
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The police do have the plate. I handed it to them. After I gave my statement the officer showed me a picture of the guy driving the car. 16 year old kid. They had already been to his house and talked to his parents. The kid had not contacted his parents since the accident.

I'm so sorry Rod. I wish I could have done more

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Bull****in , it was a kid that means the law cant do much since he is underage. Please someone tell me im dead wrong and they will hang his azz in court and he will be punished to the full extent of the law
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The police do have the plate. I handed it to them. After I gave my statement the officer showed me a picture of the guy driving the car. 16 year old kid. They had already been to his house and talked to his parents. The kid had not contacted his parents since the accident.

I'm so sorry Rod. I wish I could have done more

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Good to hear, but shameful, too. He'll never be the same, and since he's a minor, the law probably won't do much in the way of punishment.
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The police do have the plate. I handed it to them. After I gave my statement the officer showed me a picture of the guy driving the car. 16 year old kid. They had already been to his house and talked to his parents. The kid had not contacted his parents since the accident.

I'm so sorry Rod. I wish I could have done more

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Probably fcking with the radio or cell phone........It's a fcking shame. I agree with Huges40 that tougher laws need to be implemented for being on Cell Phones while Driving.
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maybe we can hope he has a birthday and the judge tries him as an adult
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Probably fcking with the radio or cell phone........It's a fcking shame. I agree with Huges40 that tougher laws need to be implemented for being on Cell Phones while Driving.
my mother said when he stood on the pegs that the car that hit him did not seem to even know he was there, it is her opinion he simply was not paying attention.

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Old 02-12-2009, 01:38 AM   #88
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my mother said when he stood on the pegs that the car that climbed over him did not seem to even know he was there, it is her opinion he simply was not paying attention.
You know, when he stood up on the pegs to look ahead, he very likely slowed down significantly, and without the brake lights going on. Still no excuse for the driver who hit him, but I can see this playing out. The combination of speeding bikers, leading to an LEO on the chase, leading to a major distraction on the highway, by a highway interchange, a biker slowing down with all attention focused on the distraction, an inattentive driver, whether he be on a cell phone, messing with the radio, or equally distracted by the ongoing scenario... leading to a tragedy.

The driver driving off is inexcusable, nonetheless.
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Btw, I do know from experience that this will (typically) happen when you get up on the pegs to scan ahead. I remember taking note one time when I did the same, then looked down at my speedo and realized I slowed down significantly within only a few seconds. Unless you are conscious of the fact that you need to maintain throttle, your bike will slow down. Keep that in mind always whenever you do the same.
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You know, when he stood up on the pegs to look ahead, he very likely slowed down significantly, and without the brake lights going on. Still no excuse for the driver who hit him, but I can see this playing out. The combination of speeding bikers, leading to an LEO on the chase, leading to a major distraction on the highway, by a highway interchange, a biker slowing down with all attention focused on the distraction, an inattentive driver, whether he be on a cell phone, messing with the radio, or equally distracted by the ongoing scenario... leading to a tragedy.

The driver driving off is inexcusable, nonetheless.
I think you have it nailed, that is exactly what I believe as well… An inexperienced 16 year old driver in awe of seeing all this action going down. Probably watching the 4th bike thinking he was getting pulled over (looking to the left) while at the same time the 5th rider slowing down. This is still unexcusable and should be considered vehicular homicide (manslaughter). He will at least loose his right to drive right??
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one can only hope that with the kid driving off, the law ( courts ) will find that extremely negligent to the point of being criminal and charge him as an adult.

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thank police got the plate...
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Sincere condolences to family and friends.

Also to the family of the youth who ran him down. Can't imagine learning that your child did something like that and just left the person.
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Kids get scared. Especially when they run over someone. Think for a second how your 16 year old would react, and how you'd hope he'd react, and how he might actually react. Our fight or flight instinct is at our very core, and when fear and adrenaline take over it's hard to control ourselves, especially at 16. The kid sure has a lot to deal with. And say what you may about his need for being punished, it's reasonable to assume his intent was not to harm or his actions after the accident to leave a dying man without aid. I hope I am right. Rod's family and this kid's family will be dealing with this tragedy forever, it's just not good all around. So sad for both families and friends.

The driving age in most countries parellels the right to vote, right to consent, right to drink, right to be an adult in most way, under the law and in the eyes of the community. We've created a skewed system where "kids" can drive but aren't considered adult enough to understand the consequences of their actions, decide what rules to live by, drink a glass of wine, sign a legal contract, or be held accountable for their behavior in a court of law. I've always favored the european model. Cars at 18, 30 mph mopeds at 16. Drinking at 18. Voting at 18. Harsh fines for breaking laws, not BS community service or slaps on the wrists. DUI a mandatory license suspension.
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Kids get scared. Especially when they run over someone. Think for a second how your 16 year old would react, and how you'd hope he'd react, and how he might actually react. Our fight or flight instinct is at our very core, and when fear and adrenaline take over it's hard to control ourselves, especially at 16. The kid sure has a lot to deal with. And say what you may about his need for being punished, it's reasonable to assume his intent was not to harm or his actions after the accident to leave a dying man without aid. I hope I am right. Rod's family and this kid's family will be dealing with this tragedy forever, it's just not good all around. So sad for both families and friends.

The driving age in most countries parellels the right to vote, right to consent, right to drink, right to be an adult in most way, under the law and in the eyes of the community. We've created a skewed system where "kids" can drive but aren't considered adult enough to understand the consequences of their actions, decide what rules to live by, drink a glass of wine, sign a legal contract, or be held accountable for their behavior in a court of law. I've always favored the european model. Cars at 18, 30 mph mopeds at 16. Drinking at 18. Voting at 18. Harsh fines for breaking laws, not BS community service or slaps on the wrists. DUI a mandatory license suspension.
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Kids get scared. Especially when they run over someone. Think for a second how your 16 year old would react, and how you'd hope he'd react, and how he might actually react. Our fight or flight instinct is at our very core, and when fear and adrenaline take over it's hard to control ourselves, especially at 16. The kid sure has a lot to deal with. And say what you may about his need for being punished, it's reasonable to assume his intent was not to harm or his actions after the accident to leave a dying man without aid. I hope I am right. Rod's family and this kid's family will be dealing with this tragedy forever, it's just not good all around. So sad for both families and friends.

The driving age in most countries parellels the right to vote, right to consent, right to drink, right to be an adult in most way, under the law and in the eyes of the community. We've created a skewed system where "kids" can drive but aren't considered adult enough to understand the consequences of their actions, decide what rules to live by, drink a glass of wine, sign a legal contract, or be held accountable for their behavior in a court of law. I've always favored the european model. Cars at 18, 30 mph mopeds at 16. Drinking at 18. Voting at 18. Harsh fines for breaking laws, not BS community service or slaps on the wrists. DUI a mandatory license suspension.

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RIP Rod. and condolences to everyone involved. a terrible accident for sure.
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