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Old 01-18-2006, 04:08 PM   #1
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Can I plug a rear tire?

Exactly as it says. My rear tire has a nail in it, but the tire only has about 400 miles on it and i don't want to buy a new one(unless i have too!) Can i plug it? or can a shop plug it for me? Let me know your thoughts guys. BTW, i use the bike mostly for commuting to school, and I'm too slow to ride fast and aggressively, if that makes any difference. Thanks for your help. JET
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If I had to choose to repair my tire, I would PATCH, not plug it. You have a soft, high-speed tire and the plug can easily contribute to a deadly failure. The best thing would be to buy a new one.
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you'll hear both sides of the fense. if you chose to repair it, make sure it's a patch plug, where they have to take the tire off and patch it on the inside.
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cycle gear grand opening has some great deals on new tires. i wouldnt risk my life to save some $
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weel have any of you had a tire plugged? if so, who can do the job correctly on the North side of town?
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Here is some info By James R. Davis (http://www.msgroup.org/DISCUSS.asp) hope it is helpful.
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Sometimes you can't win. I just had to replace a virtually new Elite II rear tire on my motorcycle because it had picked up a couple of small nails.

I know, all I really had to do was plug the tire. Right? Wrong!

Here are a few things you might consider about tire plugs:

Almost any single puncture (thru the tread) can be repaired by the use of a tire plug. (I would be willing to ride with a properly {from the inside} plugged tire anytime.)

You cannot put more than one plug within the same quadrant of a tire - safely.

You cannot put more than two plugs into a tire - period.

The manufacturers of tire plugs specifically disavow the safety of doing either of the last two items listed above. They also void their speed warranties as a result of any tire plugging. Your tire is probably marked with an 'H' speed designation, meaning it is rated for safety up to 130 MPH. If you have even one tire plug in it you should not drive faster than about 80 MPH using that tire.

I had picked up three small nails in my tire. All three leaked air when I removed them. 'My kingdom for a horse!' It cost me $150 for another new Elite II. (Life is too important to be left in the hands of three plugs when the manufacturers refuse to stand up for their safety.)

[In case you missed it earlier, every reference made here about 'tire plugs' refers to professionally installed, from the inside, tire repair plugs - NOT the emergency roadside repair kits which install from the outside of your tire.]
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Good luck! A lot of places won't go there for liability reasons.
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i understand the liability behind it, and i appreciate the replies everyone. The nail is very small, and i haven't pulled it yet(delaying the inevitable i guess), but i wanted to know your opinions before i decide which way to go. I just paid $600 for books for this semester, so i may have to put it off and cage it for a while, and that sucks! keep any info coming please, and thank you for your time. Jet

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i plugged my bike tire in some ones garage about 900 miles ago. really want to replace it just cant afford to most of my recent riding has been local and under 70 mph, but man would i hate to have the back tire go when im on it
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weel have any of you had a tire plugged? if so, who can do the job correctly on the North side of town?
ive had 3 tires with the mushroom patch (patch plug).

on all the tires i went above 150mph constantly. most places wont do it but Andy marcer did mine a few years back.

the tire wont blow up on you and if it does its the integrity of the tire not the plug. if anything it will be slow leak.
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The only issue with plugging tires, is the possibility of damaging the carcass while doing it, or if the carcass was damaged by the object that made it leak to begin with.
Typically you have to enlarge the hole to prep it for the plug / patch. During this process you can cut / nick the carcass.
The damage can cause the integrity of the carcass to be compromised, which can cause a failure at high speeds.

I've plugged a few tires in my life and have ridden on some as well.
It only took one failure on a rear of my buddies bike to change my mind.
While he managed to keep it upright, it totally destroyed his tailsection, undertail and taillight when it came apart.

Nowadays I'm expresssly forbidden to plug tires by a clause in our shop insurance. Most other bike shops are the same.
, Discount Tire will plug your car or truck tire for free, even if you don't buy it from them, but they won't touch a bike tire out of liability issues as well.

In the end it's your call, IMO, I won't ride an extended period on a plugged / patched tire.

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i have a plug in my tire well its the plug/patch thing. So i guess i can wait a little bit longer b4 needing it....Im in the same boat as him exept i had less than 200miles on my tire and i just flat out cant afford a new tire right now.
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For the topic though i have road pretty fast and iv done alot of wheelies and such and abused the out of that back tire since this happend done burn outs and everything mainly becouase i dont care about it and i have a personal vegance with it but it has held up fine. Discount motorcycle tire in pasadena will patch/plug it.
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cycle gear grand opening has some great deals on new tires. i wouldnt risk my life to save some $
thanx chase!

yup, patrick is right (as always!) CG wont plug tires either for liability reasons.

but...by the way...ehem...let me show off some of my new training from CG (i just started working there by the way if yall didnt know! :icon_bigg )

CG offers motogard, it works like this. buy a new tire. pay an extra 10% of the price of the tire to get the motogard plan. if you get a puncture or whatever within the first 25% of the tire life, CG will GIVE you a new tire. beyond that we pro-rate the tire...i.e. if there is 50% of the tread left, CG will pay for half of your new tire. badass deal if you ask me! both my tires have nails, and i thought about plugging them too, but i keep hearing warnings about it, so im getting a fresh pair of pilot powers with motogard for myself!

and yes, the prices on pilot powers are sick. about $80 for a front and $110 for a rear, give or take like ten bucks depending on your size. im reserving a set tomorrow before we open friday...i dont want them all to be gone by the time im ready to change my tire! hahha

oh, and one more bit of info, we put tires on the rims, but you need to bring in the rim to us. its pretty easy to take the wheel off the bike, you just need some stands.

I hope to see all of y'all on friday when we open, its gonna be off the hook!
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anyone on the north side want to loan me a rear stand for about 36 hours? and cyclegear boyz, how much for a new M1sporttec rear for R6?
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We stopped plugging tires a long time ago.
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CycleGear has got Pilot Powers for $109 (180/55) when they open on friday and $119 for 190/50
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i don't want mismatched tires, and my front tire is brand new as well, so the rear will stay Metzeler, but thanks for the info. Know of any deals on the metzelers?
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looks like ill have to check my account balance tomorrow and get a new tire, and that sucks, b/c i was looking forward to using that money on the 530 conversion. Oh well, got any road hazard available on that tire Patrick, b/c now that seems like such a good idea.
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