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Old 02-10-2009, 11:45 AM   #61
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I put 3000 on my bike in a few months. I ride fast, take crazy turns at high speed and always keep my bike spotless you can ask anyone. I think the person who has a filthy bike that's all messed up has no respect for money, bikes, or themselves for that matter. How do you like that for a generalization?
Mad props to the harley riders who take care of their bikes. I have a nice house that I clean and mow the lawn. Am I a poser too?
True that, I think one should keep their cars, houses, bikes, clean just like their bodies.
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I put 3000 on my bike in a few months. I ride fast, take crazy turns at high speed and always keep my bike spotless you can ask anyone. I think the person who has a filthy bike that's all messed up has no respect for money, bikes, or themselves for that matter. How do you like that for a generalization?
Mad props to the harley riders who take care of their bikes. I have a nice house that I clean and mow the lawn. Am I a poser too?
If I'm going on a ride I will give the bike a real good look over the night before to make sure everything is in good working order and that nothing is loose. I don't want surprises going through a corner at breakneck speeds.

It stays pretty clean so I usually wipe it down before and after the ride. Once it's clean it dose'nt take much time to tiddy it up, maybe 10 to 15 minuets. Letting the squashed bugs stay on the windscreen for more than a day don't cut it. I wouldn't generalize it quite like you did, but I've seen some bikes on a few rides that I wouldn't throw my leg over. Some of them I think, "I bet he don't even know what his tire pressure is right now."
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Listen I kinda understand Redux's point.. (at this time I have 2 gixxers and 2 h-d's in the garage).
On road trips the Harley guy's are usually just a bunch of pompus idiots who think they ARE 's angels on any given moment of the weekend.
When we go to Bandera Tx I alway's opt for the Gixxer.. it's simply a better bike for safety (brakes).
If I want to cruise the hood I will pull out the 74 Shovelhead.. no big deal.
I ABSOLUTLEY POSITIVELY REFUSE to become a part of any m/c club.
Just pick a group of friends, assumeing you all can tolerate each other.. shut up and go ride.
So I guess my point is just turn the thing on the right grip shoot the finger with the left and just have fun... who gives a ?

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Once it's clean it dose'nt take much time to tiddy it up, maybe 10 to 15 minuets.


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Listen I kinda understand Redux's point.. (at this time I have 2 gixxers and 2 h-d's in the garage).
On road trips the Harley guy's are usually just a bunch of pompus idiots who think they ARE 's angels on any given moment of the weekend.
When we go to Bandera Tx I alway's opt for the Gixxer.. it's simply a better bike for safety (brakes).
If I want to cruise the hood I will pull out the 74 Shovelhead.. no big deal.
I ABSOLUTLEY POSITIVELY REFUSE to become a part of any m/c club.
Just pick a group of friends, assumeing you all can tolerate each other.. shut up and go ride.
So I guess my point is just turn the thing on the right grip shoot the finger with the left and just have fun... who gives a ?

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Why I have two bikes.

One stays in the garage usually, all nice and pretty. The other one is lucky to see a water hose.

We all have our priorities I guess.

I didn't read the entire thread, sorry, but to the OP. Yea, it seems a lot of people get harleys just for the name. I wouldn't be surprised if all those trucks on the road with the harley sticker on the back, if the driver didn't even own a bike.

The same can be said for many sport bike riders though. It's all generalizations. No matter what you do or who you are, there's always gonna be people who get on your nerves.
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There's been a lot lost over the years on this one. The reason "old school" Harley riders hate Japanese sportbikes/cruisers is a simple reason. They hated everything Japanese. They hated them because of Pearl Harbor, they grew up with these attitudes, and perpetuated them. Honda was making excellent bikes way back with plenty of great technological advances, but they didn't gain any notoriety until much later simply because no one wanted to buy them because they were Japanese-made. It has nothing to do with the product. It was the mindset.

Look up the history on why the "FatBoy" is named what it is, and maybe go ask someone why the Anniversary edition has 7 yellow rings on it (and you'll begin to understand)

New "yuppie" Harley owners who foul out their plugs showing off what the bike "sounds" like in their garages don't even have a clue WHY they don't like Japanese bikes. I'd have to assume its something like "Since I own a Harley, now I don't like Japanese bikes".

I worked for HD for some years and it was often comical. I'd see people who'd come trade in their V-Star or Shadow - telling me what a great bike it is and trying to convince me to give them more for their trade; and they'd buy a Fatboy and then be in two weeks later with a completely changed attitude talking shyt about metrics (as if they'd never owned one!)

If you're going to love/hate something, at least have a qualified opinion. I've put several thousands of miles on both Harley and metric cruisers and in my opinion the Harleys are more comfortable (handlebar positioning/seat/foot positioning), more spacious, they have a more usable power band, lower center of gravity, extremely well balanced... but that's just my opinion.

That being said, I don't hate Japanese cruisers. For the $, they are a freaking steal.

The only thing I find annoying is when people with Japanese cruisers go covert and try to do their best to make their bike look like an HD... , you're on two wheels - just love the one you're on.
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Why I have two bikes.

One stays in the garage usually, all nice and pretty. The other one is lucky to see a water hose.

We all have our priorities I guess.

I didn't read the entire thread, sorry, but to the OP. Yea, it seems a lot of people get harleys just for the name. I wouldn't be surprised if all those trucks on the road with the harley sticker on the back, if the driver didn't even own a bike.

The same can be said for many sport bike riders though. It's all generalizations. No matter what you do or who you are, there's always gonna be people who get on your nerves.

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I always wonder if the guys that pimp the WCC or OCC stickers on the back window have one,(NO) Want one (pipe dream) or simply like the show on Discovery.
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There's been a lot lost over the years on this one. The reason "old school" Harley riders hate Japanese sportbikes/cruisers is a simple reason. They hated everything Japanese. They hated them because of Pearl Harbor, they grew up with these attitudes, and perpetuated them. Honda was making excellent bikes way back with plenty of great technological advances, but they didn't gain any notoriety until much later simply because no one wanted to buy them because they were Japanese-made. It has nothing to do with the product. It was the mindset.

Look up the history on why the "FatBoy" is named what it is, and maybe go ask someone why the Anniversary edition has 7 yellow rings on it (and you'll begin to understand)

New "yuppie" Harley owners who foul out their plugs showing off what the bike "sounds" like in their garages don't even have a clue WHY they don't like Japanese bikes. I'd have to assume its something like "Since I own a Harley, now I don't like Japanese bikes".

I worked for HD for some years and it was often comical. I'd see people who'd come trade in their V-Star or Shadow - telling me what a great bike it is and trying to convince me to give them more for their trade; and they'd buy a Fatboy and then be in two weeks later with a completely changed attitude talking shyt about metrics (as if they'd never owned one!)

If you're going to love/hate something, at least have a qualified opinion. I've put several thousands of miles on both Harley and metric cruisers and in my opinion the Harleys are more comfortable (handlebar positioning/seat/foot positioning), more spacious, they have a more usable power band, lower center of gravity, extremely well balanced... but that's just my opinion.

That being said, I don't hate Japanese cruisers. For the $, they are a freaking steal.

The only thing I find annoying is when people with Japanese cruisers go covert and try to do their best to make their bike look like an HD... , you're on two wheels - just love the one you're on.
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The show is on TLC first of all...

Why do people route for their football team and shyt-talk the other? Pick Ford over Chevy? HD over "Rice rockets"? Because they can. It gives them a sense of belonging...validates them. Helps them to identify with like-minded people.

As far as the waving thing...I think some (small percent) HD riders don't wave because they are a-holes...the others, I think are too scared to take one of their hands off the bars...being as they only ride a few miles/month
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About 99% of all the Harley riders that I wave at wave back. Maybe I'm lucky and don't run into all the tools.
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There's been a lot lost over the years on this one. The reason "old school" Harley riders hate Japanese sportbikes/cruisers is a simple reason. They hated everything Japanese. They hated them because of Pearl Harbor, they grew up with these attitudes, and perpetuated them. Honda was making excellent bikes way back with plenty of great technological advances, but they didn't gain any notoriety until much later simply because no one wanted to buy them because they were Japanese-made. It has nothing to do with the product. It was the mindset.

Look up the history on why the "FatBoy" is named what it is, and maybe go ask someone why the Anniversary edition has 7 yellow rings on it (and you'll begin to understand)

New "yuppie" Harley owners who foul out their plugs showing off what the bike "sounds" like in their garages don't even have a clue WHY they don't like Japanese bikes. I'd have to assume its something like "Since I own a Harley, now I don't like Japanese bikes".

I worked for HD for some years and it was often comical. I'd see people who'd come trade in their V-Star or Shadow - telling me what a great bike it is and trying to convince me to give them more for their trade; and they'd buy a Fatboy and then be in two weeks later with a completely changed attitude talking shyt about metrics (as if they'd never owned one!)

If you're going to love/hate something, at least have a qualified opinion. I've put several thousands of miles on both Harley and metric cruisers and in my opinion the Harleys are more comfortable (handlebar positioning/seat/foot positioning), more spacious, they have a more usable power band, lower center of gravity, extremely well balanced... but that's just my opinion.

That being said, I don't hate Japanese cruisers. For the $, they are a freaking steal.

The only thing I find annoying is when people with Japanese cruisers go covert and try to do their best to make their bike look like an HD... , you're on two wheels - just love the one you're on.
very well said sir. mindset is the problem. Interestingly enough when I worked at Autozone I met a couple of hardcore war veterans that absolutely loved their Honda/kawasaki cruisers.
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