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Old 02-08-2009, 01:30 AM   #1
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Why don't more people race Honda's

Been watching some of last years SuperSport races online (good stuff) and wondered how Honda can clean up there but be the minority at least at the club racing level. I'm guessing its cost and that they need more go fast parts then the others from a stock trim?
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because they're slow.
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You pretty much have it figured out. The Honda does great when it has the "special" parts on it. Also you don't see many Expert racers on them because Honda doesn't exactly pay the most contingency. Mostly you see Suzuki & Yamaha, and with Yamaha releasing a joke of a contingency program for 2009, I bet you see even more Suzukis.
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You pretty much have it figured out. The Honda does great when it has the "special" parts on it. Also you don't see many Expert racers on them because Honda doesn't exactly pay the most contingency. Mostly you see Suzuki & Yamaha, and with Yamaha releasing a joke of a contingency program for 2009, I bet you see even more Suzukis.
how does that work ???
is there a link that explains it??
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Here's a link to Honda Contingency for 2009. Since Yamaha nuked their 09 program, I'd say Honda's is now a middle of the road program. It only helps! I'll ride a Honda FTW..


http://www.hondaredriders.com/commun...ace.asp?bhcp=1
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how does that work ???
is there a link that explains it??
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Essentially you have to be an licensed expert racer. Own a 08 or 09 Honda, then register that VIN number with Honda. Honda then lists the events that they are paying at, it will not be every race weekend, usually 4 weekends a season in each club(organization). At one of the paying weekends, you fill out the contingency form for Honda, then go racing. If you finish in the money, the CMRA then sends official results to Honda, and Honda issues you a payment. Usually that payment is in the form of a preloaded credit card, but sometimes it is a check. It just depends on the manufacturer.

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I guess there's no suzuki or yamaha this year in cmra.

http://cmraracing.com/pdf/2009/Conti...cy%20Dates.pdf
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http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/ev...ngency_rr.aspx

Yamaha has posted theirs here, I have not seen what Suzuki is doing in 2009.
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Here's a link to Honda Contingency for 2009. Since Yamaha nuked their 09 program, I'd say Honda's is now a middle of the road program. It only helps! I'll ride a Honda FTW..


http://www.hondaredriders.com/commun...ace.asp?bhcp=1
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Essentially you have to be an licensed expert racer. Own a 08 or 09 Honda, then register that VIN number with Honda. Honda then lists the events that they are paying at, it will not be every race weekend, usually 4 weekends a season in each club(organization). At one of the paying weekends, you fill out the contingency form for Honda, then go racing. If you finish in the money, the CMRA then sends official results to Honda, and Honda issues you a payment. Usually that payment is in the form of a preloaded credit card, but sometimes it is a check. It just depends on the manufacturer.
thanks guys,
so this is over and above any prize fund that the race itself may have.
top Honda home at a "paying" event gets $1000 from Honda etc.

so is there prize money available at a typical TWS (Texas World Speedway) event excluding contigency money??
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thanks guys,
so this is over and above any prize fund that the race itself may have.
top Honda home at a "paying" event gets $1000 from Honda etc.

so is there prize money available at a typical TWS (Texas World Speedway) event excluding contigency money??
I have hear rumor on a Suzuki & Kawasaki weekend, Ty Howard will take home well over $10,000.
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I have hear rumor on a Suzuki & Kawasaki weekend, Ty Howard will take home well over $10,000.
I'm gobsmacked
Don't get me wrong, I think he's worth every penny having watched him race a couple of times but I didn't realise there was so much money in the sport over here.
Patrick and Brandon hinted at it awhile back but I didn't click.

He would be the envy of most British Superbike and SuperSport 600 privateers across the water in the UK.
I could tell you what some of them earned over a season but you wouldn't believe me
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I have hear rumor on a Suzuki & Kawasaki weekend, Ty Howard will take home well over $10,000.
I know for a fact that he has had $8000 ones.
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i believe the last TWS (Texas World Speedway) race he raked up a little over 10K placing first on all but one.
read it somewhere but cant seem to find it now
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i believe the last TWS (Texas World Speedway) race he raked up a little over 10K placing first on all but one.
read it somewhere but cant seem to find it now
so how many races did he enter, would you know???
how does the prize money breakdown, how does it get to 10k over one weekend??
sorry if they seem like dumb questions
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Suzuki only pays in Superstock classes as well as Kawasaki. So I know he raced A&B superstock, A on a 1000 and B on a 750. This is only if Kawasaki is paying as well, but he runs the C Superstock race as well. I think each of the Suzuki races pay $5000 for a win, and the Kawasaki race paid $2000 for a win. $1000 for second. So you can see how it stacks up. I think Suzuki will be cutting contingency this year, so Ty will be taking a pay cut. He likes to run a Suzuki big bike, and he has always liked the Kawasaki 600's.
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Suzuki only pays in Superstock classes as well as Kawasaki. So I know he raced A&B superstock, A on a 1000 and B on a 750. This is only if Kawasaki is paying as well, but he runs the C Superstock race as well. I think each of the Suzuki races pay $5000 for a win, and the Kawasaki race paid $2000 for a win. $1000 for second. So you can see how it stacks up. I think Suzuki will be cutting contingency this year, so Ty will be taking a pay cut. He likes to run a Suzuki big bike, and he has always liked the Kawasaki 600's.
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and this is at club level right, not national?
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and this is at club level right, not national?


It is even more at the AMA & WERA National level.

Look up a guy named Robert Jensen. He is a guy that travels all over the nation chasing contingency money and makes a good living doing it.
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It is even more at the AMA & WERA National level.

Look up a guy named Robert Jensen. He is a guy that travels all over the nation chasing contingency money and makes a good living doing it.
I'm truely staggered
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Suzuki only pays in Superstock classes as well as Kawasaki. So I know he raced A&B superstock, A on a 1000 and B on a 750. This is only if Kawasaki is paying as well, but he runs the C Superstock race as well. I think each of the Suzuki races pay $5000 for a win, and the Kawasaki race paid $2000 for a win. $1000 for second. So you can see how it stacks up. I think Suzuki will be cutting contingency this year, so Ty will be taking a pay cut. He likes to run a Suzuki big bike, and he has always liked the Kawasaki 600's.
This is big news back home
remember this is aimed at the BSB factory and BSS teams

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Two 12-lap races for British Superbike and British Supersport teams offer enticing start to the year ahead

TWO RACES aimed at British Superbike and Supersport teams, and counting to the Donington Park Trophy, have been added to the circuit's opening motorcycle race meeting of the season, the all-new MotoSix Internations Team Challenge, to be held over the weekend of 28/29 March.
The two races, each over 12 laps of the Leicestershire Grand Prix circuit, on Sunday and offering a prize fund of 5000 will provide a pre-season warm-up prior to the start of the busy BSB Championship year.

Ahead of the races, practice and qualifying for which will be held during Saturday, a special test day has been arranged for Thursday 26 March, with participating teams able to remain in the pits/paddock area through to the weekend event.

The Donington Park Trophy races add a further dimension to an already busy sporting weekend at the circuit, featuring the inaugural running of the six nations team challenge with riders representing England, Scotland, Wales, the Isle of Man, Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic bidding for glory in Superbike, Supersport and Sidecar races.

Around these there will also be races counting to the ACU Suzuki GS-R Trophy, the ACU 250GP National Championship and the Womens British Championship.
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