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Old 02-08-2009, 01:56 PM   #21
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lol, wrd!


just because you're on two wheels doesn't mean you're above the law. granted, the driver of the car was a moron as well, but don't expect any sympathy from me because you were doing something illegal and someone else decided they were going to stop it. if they had sat in traffic and obeyed the law like everyone else was doing, not only would they have ended up getting to their destination faster, they wouldn't have immeasurably slowed everyone else down by creating an accident scene.
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just because you're on two wheels doesn't mean you're above the law. granted, the driver of the car was a moron as well, but don't expect any sympathy from me because you were doing something illegal and someone else decided they were going to stop it. if they had sat in traffic and obeyed the law like everyone else was doing, not only would they have ended up getting to their destination faster, they wouldn't have immeasurably slowed everyone else down by creating an accident scene.
Don't ride above the law and expect everyone else to like it or feel sorry for you when something happens. Cager was definitely in the wrong also, but shouldn't have been buzzing on the shoulder. A lot safer to lane split at a slow pace.
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carry a gun & rid the earth of these scum.
like i've said before, i've dragged a dude out of his car & beat his on space centers median for less.
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[QUOTE=bubby;1757466] Don't ride above the law and expect everyone else to like it or feel sorry for you when something happens. Cager was definitely in the wrong also, but shouldn't have been buzzing on the shoulder. A lot safer to lane split at a slow pace.[/QUOTE]

i dont remember saying that they were hauling . to my understanding they were traveling at a reasonably slow pace down the shoulder. especially since the last guy was able to stop before the car. now im not saying that what these guys did was right. but intentionally hitting someone on a motorcycle with your vehicle for doing something that really wasnt causing you any harm....just absolute bullshit in my opinion. if the driver would have been beaten unconcious after that i would not have been surprised or sorry.
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just because you're on two wheels doesn't mean you're above the law. granted, the driver of the car was a moron as well, but don't expect any sympathy from me because you were doing something illegal and someone else decided they were going to stop it. if they had sat in traffic and obeyed the law like everyone else was doing, not only would they have ended up getting to their destination faster, they wouldn't have immeasurably slowed everyone else down by creating an accident scene.
That opinion is BS. Because nobody in this place has authority to police the roads and highways unless you carry a badge and license by the state of TX. Problem is that some people for some reason cannot subdue their issues when they see other people committing a traffic infraction. Why would you raise your blood pressure to the roof because someone rides on one wheel on the concrete divider in a clown suit. Or drive down the road over the grassy median. Because you had to sit in traffic for one more minute and they get to go on their merry way. Now as a driver you try to take matters into your own hands and do a jackass move causing an accident. Now you have to wait 1 or 2 hours for the cops to do their investigation.
Learn to let it go, you are not the freaking police.
1. Don't try to control speed on the road or highway by staying in the fast lane because you don't want anyone to pass you.
2. Don't block the shoulders cause you are that everyone is using it.

By the way, it is legal to pass a vehicle on the shoulder if you are a 2 lane road and the vehicle is stopped and making a left turn.
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Don't forget the basic intent of traffic laws: To provide laws that increase the safety of the general public. You are guilty of violating the law only when a judge finds you guilty of causing a safety hazard to the public. A real judge, not a traffic court.
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Don't ride above the law and expect everyone else to like it or feel sorry for you when something happens. Cager was definitely in the wrong also, but shouldn't have been buzzing on the shoulder. A lot safer to lane split at a slow pace.
I could be wrong (and someone please correct me if I am), but I thought this was illegal also.
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That opinion is BS. Because nobody in this place has authority to police the roads and highways unless you carry a badge and license by the state of TX. Problem is that some people for some reason cannot subdue their issues when they see other people committing a traffic infraction. Why would you raise your blood pressure to the roof because someone rides on one wheel on the concrete divider in a clown suit. Or drive down the road over the grassy median. Because you had to sit in traffic for one more minute and they get to go on their merry way. Now as a driver you try to take matters into your own hands and do a jackass move causing an accident. Now you have to wait 1 or 2 hours for the cops to do their investigation.
Learn to let it go, you are not the freaking police.
1. Don't try to control speed on the road or highway by staying in the fast lane because you don't want anyone to pass you.
2. Don't block the shoulders cause you are that everyone is using it.

By the way, it is legal to pass a vehicle on the shoulder if you are a 2 lane road and the vehicle is stopped and making a left turn.
i think the opinion is completely valid. you're only looking at it from a motorcycler's perspective.

it's a two-sided problem. you have cagers who can't accept your better manueverability, and you have cyclists who take advantage of our small footprint to disobey laws because they can't subdue their urge to get somewhere as fast as humanly possible.

both parties were wrong in this instance. and i won't feel sorry for either of them. if you do dumb , dumb will happen to you. simple.
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about lane splitting
i thought i read somewhere that in Texas there is no law against the practice of lane splitting. so lane splitting is not illegal since there is no law

but there is nothing in the books that says its legal. in cali, i beleive the lane splitting is written in the books and stated that lane spliitting is legal when done safely. you cant lane split in cali when traffic in moving, thats just you being an idiot in trouble hits you in the mouth. you can split lanes when traffic is slow so that you can get around them

in this is the case, the bikers should be ok to split lanes and the driver should be arrested for intent to harm and use of weapon. i dont see any court where the cager would be innocent. this incident is about the car/driver striking the biker. nothing about the biker driving on the side road would provoke this action. i would definately sue.
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it's not legel nor illegal to L/S in TX, but cops and reg folk don't like it

if you do, be prepared to suffer the consequences. and don't whine about it.

and riding down the emergancy lane is not lane splitting.
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for this didnt happen to me. im not even in houston right now. so im not whining. the point of my post isnt really even the shoulder riding or the fact that the pulled out to hit the riders. thats all just a cluster fukk that probably could have been avoided.
the fact that she got knocked down by the still enraged driver trying to get at the downed rider is just sickening to me. an inocent by stander trying to provide help was knocked to the ground by this . your safety soap box isnt the point here homey. its the lack of human decency that is the issue.
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for this didnt happen to me. im not even in houston right now. so im not whining. the point of my post isnt really even the shoulder riding or the fact that the pulled out to hit the riders. thats all just a cluster fukk that probably could have been avoided.
the fact that she got knocked down by the still enraged driver trying to get at the downed rider is just sickening to me. an inocent by stander trying to provide help was knocked to the ground by this . your safety soap box isnt the point here homey. its the lack of human decency that is the issue.
ahhh, ok...i lost you on that second part of your first post, i thought you were saying the 5th rider in line got knocked down by the driver while he was trying to get to the 4th rider (presumably to exchange harsh words/fight/otherwise be stupid). it wasn't clear that it was ur friend who got knocked over.

gotta say though, judging by his previous actions, i'm not suprised. he's obviously not one of those guys who'd run into a burning building to save a stranger or anything.
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ahhh, ok...i lost you on that second part of your first post, i thought you were saying the 5th rider in line got knocked down by the driver while he was trying to get to the 4th rider (presumably to exchange harsh words/fight/otherwise be stupid). it wasn't clear that it was ur friend who got knocked over.

gotta say though, judging by his previous actions, i'm not suprised. he's obviously not one of those guys who'd run into a burning building to save a stranger or anything.
ya i mean i dunno why anyone could expect a person that would intentionally hit someone with their vehicle to have any kind of rashional thought process. and dont get me wrong im not trying to down play racer x. his leniency towards safety is very admirable. so i didnt mean to sound harsh with that last post. the wreck itself is neither surprising nor alarming. just a situation all the way around.
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That opinion is BS. Because nobody in this place has authority to police the roads and highways unless you carry a badge and license by the state of TX. Problem is that some people for some reason cannot subdue their issues when they see other people committing a traffic infraction. Why would you raise your blood pressure to the roof because someone rides on one wheel on the concrete divider in a clown suit. Or drive down the road over the grassy median. Because you had to sit in traffic for one more minute and they get to go on their merry way. Now as a driver you try to take matters into your own hands and do a jackass move causing an accident. Now you have to wait 1 or 2 hours for the cops to do their investigation.
Learn to let it go, you are not the freaking police.
1. Don't try to control speed on the road or highway by staying in the fast lane because you don't want anyone to pass you.
2. Don't block the shoulders cause you are that everyone is using it.

By the way, it is legal to pass a vehicle on the shoulder if you are a 2 lane road and the vehicle is stopped and making a left turn.

I agree with you. Plus it's not like a motorcycle takes up a lot of space. People really me off sometime. They get so jealous.
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I agree with you. Plus it's not like a motorcycle takes up a lot of space. People really me off sometime. They get so jealous.
an 18 wheeler can fit down the emergancy lane? so whats teh diff. they both fit down the emergancy lane, i think it's funny the sense of entitlement bikers think they have cuz they are smaller.
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ok - riding on emergency lane is illegal
passing on the right is improper
excessive speed is a ticket
road rage is a pretty bad offense, if they could demonstrate it was an intentional act. I would sue the driver for everything possible if it was clear it was rage (intentional damage) that could have been fatal.

Best bet is to watch out for potential rage circumstances when you're on two wheels - no matter what - you lose.

Bottom line though - the cager is a complete and should be penalized for being an , and should have gotten kicked in the on the spot.
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