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Old 02-04-2009, 09:47 PM   #21
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never ever? ever is a long time. 30 years. you been shifting longer than ive been around.

yep...yer probably right about teh old part. I have, and do use the clutch from time to time when upshifting, but very rarely. I was taught very early in my riding the proper way to clutchless-upshift, and have used it ever since.
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yep...yer probably right about teh old part. I have, and do use the clutch from time to time when upshifting, but very rarely. I was taught very early in my riding the proper way to clutchless-upshift, and have used it ever since.
im just messin wit u. i know how to clutchless upshift. used to race motocross and i know how a quick shifter works. and will be hittin yall up for a track day hopefully this year.
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The motorcycle transmission is called a crashbox design.

All mentioned above, but would recommend not downshifting without using the clutch since you are increasing torque through the transmission when doing so.

Godsuki mentioned a quickshifter, which is a momentary switch put inline with the shift lever. When triggered during a shift from the lever it momentarily cuts the ignition to slow the engine rotation for a moment and allow a smoother shift much like blipping the throttle while resting weight on the lever(not forcing it down)


I use my clutch in almost all my shifting for the street. Even when drag racing a do partial clutch shifts to smooth out the transition and prevent wheelies. That's just my preference.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:02 PM   #25
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Years ago the weak link in a strong bike was typically second gear.
Today the transmissions in sport bikes seem to be very strong.
They are not like car transmissions as they do not have the soft metal syncro gears.

On the clutchless shift it does feel like you get a harder hit in the next gear
So I would think it would be harder on the transmission.

But clutchless shifting does not seem to harm todays sport bikes.

Except for purely competative purposes,
I am not sure how much you really gain on a clutchless shift.
Seems even in a spirited ride the whole throttle blip, clutch tag,and shift can be done symotaniously in a fraction of a second, if desired.

Are you saving any clutch life with a clutchless shift?
and if so, so what, seems clutches last pretty long any how and are easy to access on a bike when they need replaced.

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Speed shifting a car ment keeping the gas pedal to the floor and hitting the clutch and next gear in one quick move.
That produced a quick hard shift, but if you missed you overeved the engine pretty good.

Hmm wonder if you can do that on a bike to any advantage?

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ba ha ha ha. where is your sense of humor? See you at the track.
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ba ha ha ha. where is your sense of humor? See you at the track.
lol. not today chief.

i dont ride track, i wish. Too much money money that this college student doesnt have.


your still a bish though
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Old 02-05-2009, 12:29 AM   #29
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thanks for all the replies. I dont think that i will be using the clutchless upshift but it is good to know. to me it just seemed weird and crazy since i have driven numerous standard transmission vehicles and this was death to the trans. Oh well once again thanks ev1
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clutchless upshift and downshift can be done if you know how. If you do it correctly, you will preserve the clutches.
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I never use the clutch on the bike (MX habits?). My father doesnt in cars or trucks, either. He's a retired truck driver, and can match RPMs with his shifts. The fall in like butter 90% of the time with him.
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i dont ride track, i wish. Too much money money that this college student doesnt have.


your still a bish though
So what kind of racing were you referring to?
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So what kind of racing were you referring to?
PS2...he never hits the L1 button!!

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racing buddies, cars..ect.

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lol. not today chief.

i dont ride track, i wish. Too much money money that this college student doesnt have.


your still a bish though
so why you looking for a 1k, you still haven't experienced your 600 to it's max. damm poor college kids..........

as for the OP, is the gain worth the risK?
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so why you looking for a 1k, you still haven't experienced your 600 to it's max. damm poor college kids..........

as for the OP, is the gain worth the risK?
Again, who are u to tell me to experience?stfu
I'll worry about that, u go worry bout ur pathetic life
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lol, remember your the poor one who can't afford to upgrade from a 250 to a 600, but you can from a 6 to a 1k, which is it?
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lol, remember your the poor one who can't afford to upgrade from a 250 to a 600, but you can from a 6 to a 1k, which is it?
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lol, remember your the poor one who can't afford to upgrade from a 250 to a 600, but you can from a 6 to a 1k, which is it?
With my current financial situation, I was not gonna chance it. I've gotten a chance to sell my bike and recieve help from my dad. You don't know my situation, so I vote that u keep ur nose out of peoples business. I mentioned that I WANT to.. Flip shot when I get one..,, but for now go annoy someone else
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