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Old 02-04-2009, 07:23 PM   #1
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Question for a friend that isnt me.

A friend is trying to tell me that he was told that after shifting from first to second on a sportbike that you dont need to use the clutch to shift and as a matter of fact it prolongs the life of the trans if you dont use the clutch to shift up. Just use the clutch to shift down. To me this seems like this would put extra wear and tear on moving parts. I have always been told that you can shift without the clutch but you will grind gears or put unecessary wear on parts.

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Old 02-04-2009, 07:24 PM   #2
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shifting is for pansies, i go everywhere in first gear
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:24 PM   #3
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i only shift without the clutch when im racing
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Sounds completely logical! Go try it out and tell us the results!
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I said the same thing about using a gear other than first. I didnt know i had 5 others
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:32 PM   #7
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:17 PM   #8
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clutchless upshifting. put pressure on the shift lever (from underneath), let off the throttle and it will shift itself up during more spirited sprints i'll use it. now if i could only clutchless downshift....
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:26 PM   #9
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i only shift without the clutch when im racing
So that means you never shift without the clutch? 'cause we know you can't race.
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:31 PM   #10
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it's your bike so do whatever you want. Treat it well if you plan to keep it many years without problems. Or bang gears and have a risk of problems later. Is it really worth the problems to go one second faster?




But on a side note> I bang the outta some gears and dog the t outta my bike It's a lotta fun, BUT I only do this because I have a replacement engine sitting in my garage I still seem to pay for it through rear tires, chains & ECT.
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:34 PM   #11
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ya but it only works shifting into even numbered gears. so it will work going into 2nd 4th and 6th.
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Question for a friend that isnt me.

A friend is trying to tell me that he was told that after shifting from first to second on a sportbike that you dont need to use the clutch to shift and as a matter of fact it prolongs the life of the trans if you dont use the clutch to shift up. Just use the clutch to shift down. To me this seems like this would put extra wear and tear on moving parts. I have always been told that you can shift without the clutch but you will grind gears or put unecessary wear on parts.

Thanks for a quick reply ahead of time
Its called clutchless up-shifting, it does not do any damage to your transmission and come do a trackday with us at TTD and you will learn that and many other things.

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shifting is for pansies, i go everywhere in first gear

and this is why you will be in our novice class forever!
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! you guys are gonna ruin this poor noob!

Clutchless upshifting, when done properly, will not harm your tranny. By breaking throttle (not closing it) and preloading your shifter, it will slip right into gear. It does the same thing a quick shifter does.

I have used this method for 30 years, and never had any tranny problems.
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but, improper clutchless shifting could break something.

if it's smooth, you're doing it right. if you're a dumbass, use the clutch.
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opposite of snowballing.
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! you guys are gonna ruin this poor noob!

Clutchless upshifting, when done properly, will not harm your tranny. By breaking throttle (not closing it) and preloading your shifter, it will slip right into gear. It does the same thing a quick shifter does.

I have used this method for 30 years, and never had any tranny problems.
never ever? ever is a long time. 30 years. you been shifting longer than ive been around.
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So that means you never shift without the clutch? 'cause we know you can't race.
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not even worth it. go get your jollies in a bundle somewhere else mr. clean
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Pin it, dump the clutch, and start grabbin gear. WFO= Wide Fuggin Open
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