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View Poll Results: Advanced Lap Times at TWS (Texas World Speedway)
Snails Pace 5 7.35%
2:05 - 2:10 3 4.41%
2:00 - 2:05 13 19.12%
1:55 - 2:00 29 42.65%
1:50 - 1:55 12 17.65%
Gods Speed 6 8.82%
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:19 PM   #21
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Man, I'm so close to selling the GSXR, but then I watch these video's you guys keep posting....What to do, what to do? Curt, the guy in front of you had a nice pass on the way outside of T6 in the first lap (1st video). Who was that? Ty?
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:27 PM   #23
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Man, I'm so close to selling the GSXR, but then I watch these video's you guys keep posting....What to do, what to do? Curt, the guy in front of you had a nice pass on the way outside of T6 in the first lap (1st video). Who was that? Ty?
Ha ha ha, no that was me. I'm the rider in the white jersey in the first video. Mr Whoopie is riding the camera bike. In the second video, I am riding the camera bike.
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:31 PM   #25
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Ha ha ha, no that was me. I'm the rider in the white jersey in the first video. Mr Whoopie is riding the camera bike. In the second video, I am riding the camera bike.
nice pass my friend...that was stellar
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how did all the meters get on the vid? cool stuff

is that a TTD toy?
I have some data acquisition on the bike and software on my computer that enables me to do the overlay. It's a little difficult, so I don't do it very often. I put all the TTD labeling in the video as a favor to the TTD guys.

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Old 01-22-2009, 03:32 PM   #28
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I'll say this....I don't have the to run in the advanced group with LSTD on CMRA race weekends....WAY too many fast guys out there (there is a HUGE difference between Advanced regular trackdays and pre race trackdays). Rubbing elbows? Sure. Rubbing paint? Not my style.

I think the pre race Fridays are broken into the following three groups.
Expert racers, Novice racers and Street. So itís not a good day to go if youíre a track day novice.
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Then you must!
All things considered itís still cheaper than quality drugs, hookers or therapists.
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Letís just assume the rider can hold a decent race line and doesnít do any weird for no reason.
that in it self will land you in advance IMHO
i've seen peeps in advance who dont really run a race line.
but who am i to say
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Ok it seems my last thread got jacked into a discussion about advanced level lap times.
Since I wanna save that thread and Iím curious about this, letís find out what we think about advanced level minimums.

I know there are a lot of variables that weíll just have to ignore when voting.
Letís just assume the rider can hold a decent race line and doesnít do any weird for no reason. Letís also assume the following.

Weíre at TWS (Texas World Speedway), perfect weather, itís not a race weekend there and thereís a good turnout but not overcrowded.

What kind of lap times do you need to consistently turn to ride in the advanced group?

If what is given and the rider is not pushing 100%, I should say that he should be able to run constistently less than 2:05.
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Might as well plug my video too....


This was a day running in B Group with some sloppy riding in some areas. Around the 6:10 mark is the start of a 2:00 minute lap. I don't recall the other laps but they were slightly slower. This just goes to show how the days can vary greatly as to what riders are in each group compared to the other vids in this thread.

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No one has mentioned bike choice yet? SV is probably 5 seconds down just on the main straight.

I think the best answer to this poll is run intermediate. If you pass everyone, move up to expert. Most, if not all, track day orgs allow you to move based on skill level.

I rode advanced once when everything else was full, 2nd time at TWS (Texas World Speedway). I am pretty slow at TWS (Texas World Speedway) cause I hate the speed in turn one. I ran like 2:05 - 2:10 and never had a problem, on a GSXR 600. But every once in a session a rear racer would buzz me to show me what fast really is all about. !!!
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I think the pre race Fridays are broken into the following three groups.
Expert racers, Novice racers and Street. So itís not a good day to go if youíre a track day novice.
they usually have a "street group"....I'm pretty sure I could hold my own in the Novice Racer group (although I'd be at the back of the pack), but no chance in you'd find me on the grid with the expert racers
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I think the pre race Fridays are broken into the following three groups.
Expert racers, Novice racers and Street. So itís not a good day to go if youíre a track day novice.

def not good for a first timer,unless youre with some one who's willing to take the time and show you the ropes.
thats how i started and i was not all that happy how that went....
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Last time I was at TWS (Texas World Speedway) with TTD I was right on the border between Advanced and Intermediate. I choose to ride in Advanced because there were only around 10 people riding in that session so if I was a little slow it wasn't a big deal, and I was getting jammed up a lot in the Intermediate group. I was running 2:00-2:05 consistently.

It also has a lot to do with your comfort level. Can you be passed at really close proximity and not have any issues, and even be stuffed into a corner every once in a while (rare).

Personally I prefer to ride with people slightly faster than me, its a great way to learn. But you don't want to be a rolling chicane.
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I'd say the current poll reflects what I've seen at most trackdays reguarding speed, and what level group you ride in. If your a hazard to yourself and the people around you, you should be relicated to a slower group by the Cornnerworking Team. Thats really all I expect from any trackday orginization as a pertisipant.
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No one has mentioned bike choice yet? SV is probably 5 seconds down just on the main straight.

I think the best answer to this poll is run intermediate. If you pass everyone, move up to expert. Most, if not all, track day orgs allow you to move based on skill level.

I rode advanced once when everything else was full, 2nd time at TWS (Texas World Speedway). I am pretty slow at TWS (Texas World Speedway) cause I hate the speed in turn one. I ran like 2:05 - 2:10 and never had a problem, on a GSXR 600. But every once in a session a rear racer would buzz me to show me what fast really is all about. !!!
I don't think the SV is 5 seconds down, more like 2 seconds. Maybe 3 seconds down to a 1000, but with that said I have still passed my fair share of "big" bikes on my SV.
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