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Old 01-19-2009, 10:22 PM   #21
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Ok the 848 seems like a great bike, and I like Ducati and they really stand up to the name they have made, but it also seems like its hard to find parts for italian bikes and when things go wrong might as well mortgage the house for the repair bill. What about the Honda was it hard to find parts? What were the prices of parts compared to say cbr, gixxers ect? What kind of aftermarket support does the 51 have?
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I've never owned one, but I've ridden a few at the track. It's really unfortunate that it's (now) under powered because it's a lot of fun to ride.

If you get one, don't go 'a changin' it. Leave it as-is except for suspension and brake pad changes. I would forgo engine builds or anything like that in order to keep it reliable and keep the costs down.

It's going to be more expensive to "build up" an RC51 by comparison, stick to the basics if it's going to be a track hoe: Suspension, brakes, bodywork (keep the stock stuff safely hidden from sun light).

Great bike, tons of fun, but parts are getting hard to find.

Naturally, the Ducati costs are going to be much higher, as are the 51's, than any of the modern i-4s like GSXR, CBR, ZX, R?. The 51 is going to be expensive by comparison AND hard to find.

Here's a short clip of some really slow laps I took on my bud's 51:

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I liked mine.

Having owned one my impression is different than Cali's.
The bike screamed on top. It actually revved pretty quickly for a twin, almost as fast as an inline and it was dead smooth.

The bike is dead stable on the track and as Louis said, is very forgiving.
There's a number of things that can be done about the heat issue and you are damned sure not likely to see a bunch of them up at PP1.

I agree though, both the Ducati 848 and the Aprilia Mille are probably more capable bikes, but not by a huge amount.

In the end, if YOU like the bike by all means get it.


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BTW if you do get an RC51 Patrick seems to know a lot about them. He has always been more than willing to answer any of my questions. Now the only question for you should be SP1 or SP2.
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parts for the rc are out there. really though, they hardly break. a fair amount of after market stuff for them. mainly race type stuff.
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parts for the rc are out there. really though, they hardly break. a fair amount of after market stuff for them. mainly race type stuff.
Thats the main reason why I them, As I read i can clearly see that they are many bikes that wcan and will out perform it but I am a HUGE fan of Honda reliability
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i will say that the rc51 had the best FACTORY brakes I have ever felt. also the tranny is very smooth and solid. suspension is reasonable but tunes to a 180lb. person. 2 up riding is for not.
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Thanks for everyones input, if you can think of anything else that i would need to know please share, And possibly the end of this season the cbr will be up for sale
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Part #1 Marie
I hate this thing! it's loud coarse harsh tall the steering is heavy it vibrates horribly It's horribly cramped in the riding position.. Oh and go ahead and try, you can run but you can't hide. I'll run you down like a sick Dog with my 07 GSXR750. Which by the way does everything better.
There's only a few positive things I can say about this bike.
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I love this thing! Engine braking galore! So much torque it doesn't move, it actually FORCES the world to turn beneath it. It has horrible manners and wags its tail everywhere at speed if you don't spend the money for a good dampner, get a good dampner problem solved. It's light quick and agile super forgiving of mid corner mistakes. The Vtwin motor means that it is narrow and therefore easy to transition or throw around. It also means that you can power out of turns trusting the power pulses to save you from a classic lowside/highside. It also means that you can pick on the Harley guys with a VTwin this thing wheelies better easier farther than anything I ever rode. It's instant rockstar status anywhere street or paddock because they are somewhat rare and you will be the only one riding one unless your at the track. Parts race street or aftermarket are available reasonbly.
So is there a downside? Yup it is the most uncomfortable bike this side of the Ducati 996. as a matter of fact you can tell the Ducati guys that it's a poor mans Duc as your smokin them!


As you can see we disagree pretty much on this bike probably more than anything we own or that we have both rode. We suggest you beg or borrow a ride on one put your bike up as collateral have the RC owner follow you on your bike try one out and make your own decision because thats the only way you will know.
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IF you want the real deal from real Riders/Racers about the RC51 from someone who OWNs one here you go two part post.
what kind of stupid azz comment is this? have you ever OWNED one? several people that have posted in this thread has or currently does. go up someone elses thread.
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witchdoctor and Patrick are right.

I just sold my RC 51 while also owning a 1krr.

I have always wanted the RC and finally bought one last year. All the descriptions were correct for me as well.

For the track it was great but for around town, the cbr won new respect from me for comfort, performance and all around enjoyment.

My recommendation, keep the 600rr, ride someone's RC a couple of times and save $5K.

Your RR IS state of the art technology and even better performance on the track.

I sold mine after only 8 months.
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witchdoctor and Patrick are right.

I just sold my RC 51 while also owning a 1krr.

I have always wanted the RC and finally bought one last year. All the descriptions were correct for me as well.

For the track it was great but for around town, the cbr won new respect from me for comfort, performance and all around enjoyment.

My recommendation, keep the 600rr, ride someone's RC a couple of times and save $5K.

Your RR IS state of the art technology and even better performance on the track.

I sold mine after only 8 months.
Well if someone would be ever so nice to let me ride their RC that would be awsome but seems like the biggest complaint is using it to commute, so I might think about keeping the RR and maybe find a wrecked RC just for the track incase I don't like it then I'm not without a bike
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witchdoctor and Patrick are right.

I just sold my RC 51 while also owning a 1krr.

I have always wanted the RC and finally bought one last year. All the descriptions were correct for me as well.

For the track it was great but for around town, the cbr won new respect from me for comfort, performance and all around enjoyment.

My recommendation, keep the 600rr, ride someone's RC a couple of times and save $5K.

Your RR IS state of the art technology and even better performance on the track.

I sold mine after only 8 months.
I have No. 000008 off the A-line with no qualms... a 2000. Puts 110 down at the rear on an Eddy C. Dyno and gives to the $15K Aprilia 2007 1,100cc Tuono my buddy has (he had it bored up)

If you wish for the latest Hot Shot,... RCs are not for you...

If you get one, ... take her to MSR, much trickier than TWS (Texas World Speedway), yet TWS (Texas World Speedway) and LSTD crew are awesome!
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Well if someone would be ever so nice to let me ride their RC that would be awsome but seems like the biggest complaint is using it to commute, so I might think about keeping the RR and maybe find a wrecked RC just for the track incase I don't like it then I'm not without a bike
We will have my RC51 (as well as Marie's Land Speed Hayabusa, and her GSXR750) at the SportBikeExtravaganza in Iraan Texas in April. Granted this quite a way from Houston but if you ride up you are welcome to spend a few hours or a day riding my RC51 (provided you bring your bike as collateral). Besides what better excuse to show up and hang out with 1000 other sportbikes? It's pretty much stock Two Brothers and PC.
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well youre comment was rather condescending in nature. you were implying that nobody knew what they were talking about, except for you. calm the down.

I didn't take it that way, but if I had to guess Witch Dr. misinterpreted his post.

Everyone take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard.
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We will have my RC51 (as well as Marie's Land Speed Hayabusa, and her GSXR750) at the SportBikeExtravaganza in Iraan Texas in April. Granted this quite a way from Houston but if you ride up you are welcome to spend a few hours or a day riding my RC51 (provided you bring your bike as collateral). Besides what better excuse to show up and hang out with 1000 other sportbikes? It's pretty much stock Two Brothers and PC.
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Where's iraan TX? That's sounds like that would be a fun trip get to meet a bunch of bikers and ride a rc.
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on I-10 between Fort Stockton and San Antonio

Every year a couple who ride put on a one day SportBike party. Last year was close to 1000 Bikes and it gets bigger each year. Free Food Free drinks Free Camping free admittance. Sleepy town of 1200 invaded by 1000 wheelie crazed sportbikers! Free stunt competition, free 150 foot dragraces usually have about $3500 worth of gear to raffle off. Proceeds go to the local Nursing home.
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