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Old 01-19-2009, 03:01 PM   #1
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Old 01-19-2009, 03:02 PM   #2
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U should apply. He's getting old anyway
Good info though. Of course, Im too lazy to do it.
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Peeps have been asking me. Well, I had to do it yet again today so I decided to document it.
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when they designed these engines, or any auto or moto engines for that matter, do they test them with 10% ethanol gas or regular without ethanol?

It seems to me the older the engine (pre ethanol) there was no testing done...
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It will be interesting to see how this goes.
Back in the late 70's they tried to introduce alcohol into gas. They called it "Gasohol". Since ethanol attracts water it corroded the out of most motorcycle carbs, etc.
I wonder if this "new" will do the same.?.?
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Good Post.

Easy logical way to measure ethanol concentration in gas by taking advantage of ethanol solubility in water...or vise a versa....

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-fill the remainder of the syringe to the 12mL mark(you do not get the opportunity to bleed out if you go over the 12mL mark on this one.)
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fill the remainder with what? air? water ? or gasoline?
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fill the remainder with what? air? water ? or gasoline?
with the sample (gas.)


Stated by BMW for the E30, ethanol does not effect the driveability. why? I dunno. I would suspect the fact that the four bangers run so rough anyways lol.

But the tighter the standards get for using every bit of gas, the more lean and precise the engine runs. By adding an uncombustable, inert gas into the equation it is substituting the combustable gasoline.
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It will be interesting to see how this goes.
Back in the late 70's they tried to introduce alcohol into gas. They called it "Gasohol". Since ethanol attracts water it corroded the out of most motorcycle carbs, etc.
I wonder if this "new" will do the same.?.?
We are suppose to forwarn customers about 'irreversable damage' caused by using over 10% ethanol in engines.


Pure alcohol works well but price/availability limits it to college conception races and concept vehicles.
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The factory has a procedure to clean out all injectors w pressurized fuel/cleaner(not cleaning the gas tank with a bottle solvent lol)

it works for all our engines exempt the direct injection vehicles. as low as 1000 miles in extreme cases. Based on problems with spray patterns from the ethanol-based gases fowling up the injectors.
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There is a range for ethanol content in gasoline. Although there isn't a federal limit, too much ethanol will cause other analysis to fail, thereby making the gas "bad". Usually, refiners will reblend the gasoline. The target is 10%, but its not uncommon to see upwards of 11-12%.
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at 10% BMW will refuse any claim on the vehicle for warranty.


but you are correct, its not uncommon to see over 10%
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I suspect wal mart gas of being over 10%. I did a study with my work truck and over 8 tanks I averaged 30 miles less per tank compared to Shell. I did the same with the Shell gas. Its something I thought I was seeing and wanted to check it out.
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I'm now doing Texaco gas.
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at 10% BMW will refuse any claim on the vehicle for warranty.
I'd argue that's borderline illegal.
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you could use straight ethanol but you would use twice as much fuel as with gasoline and some custom mapping maybe a big honkin turbo with big injectors, lol.
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