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Old 01-15-2009, 08:58 PM   #1
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I Will Pay $100 Cash No Tax For HELP!!!

i took apart my cam chain tensioner and now my ignition timing is off. I will pay anyone 100 bucks if you will come help me tomorrow to get my bike started and running. Nothing too hard just a little bit of timing issue. If interested call me anytime tonight or tomorrow 704-877-5798, if tomorrow you will need to show up early morning preferably because im heading out to LauBerge at 2:30

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Old 01-15-2009, 09:01 PM   #2
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dang wish i knew how to do that id be over there in fifteen minutes.
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:24 PM   #3
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forgot to mention my bikes a r6s. cmon someone i need help, would hate to tow to the stealership.
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I would have to insist that taxes are taken out. And I need a w2. I kid just a goofy bump for ya.
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did you actually take the timing chain off the sprockets
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Ya if your timing is off, there is a chance alot more things could have been messed up. Why did you take apart your tensioner?
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the idea is to keep tension on the chain while you install the new one. like wedge something between the case and the slider. if the chain jumped a tooth or teeth and you went cranking on it, it could have bent valves. if not then puting it back on time is gonna require more than 100$.
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the idea is to have the motor on tdc when you install the tensioner then it wont jump time
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my bike runs just fine before removing the tensioner, it just makes a knock like sound so i took the tensioner off to see if its crack, chippped etc. then my crazy went and crank it without the tensioner in and i beleived it skipped some tooth.

Mostly what needs to be done is remove valve cover, set camshaft to TDC, set crank to TDC, reinstall and should fire right up, if not ill recycle the POS.

Maybe I should have lived with the knock-like noise, i could have avoided this trouble and a cut on my left middle Finger lol.
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well, if you took the tensioner out and did not reset it before putting it back in, you did 1 of 2 things.

you probably put the tensioner back in with it fully extended and it is pushing to hard on the cam chain causing to much drag and not allowing the bike to start.

worst case is if you did that and it stretched the chain.. because then the only way to fix that is to replace the cam chain and to do that you would have to split the cases down to the crank to put a new cam chain on.

my best rule of thumb is to take the center of the cam chain out first, a spring will come out with it. then pull the tensioner off. there should be a little clip you can push to compress the cam chain tensioner back in, then re install the tensioner then put the center of the cam chain tensioner back in. put the bike in first and push it forward a bit to allow slack to go to the proper side of the tensioner and it will adjust itself back to the proper position.
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id slap it all back together and call a dealership and warranty it lol
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id slap it all back together and call a dealership and warranty it lol
dont bring it to stubbs I will know better, lol. By the way depending how bad you "knocking" noise was, you have way more problems then your tensioner. "Knocking" noises usually mean bad rod bearing.
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it was a chain noise, i had to ID the issue like so. day 1...knock=cam chain. day 2....knock=cam chain. day 3....knock=cam chain. 3 days to finalize and understood it to be cam chain. Thats the reason why i pulled the tensioner off. Sigh sucks to be me.
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even at tdc you would want to keep tension on the chain. i did mine not on tdc just wedged a bone in the void took me all of 10minutes. voila. good luck to op
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It's not that hard to do.

There's some inaccurate advice being bandied about here too.

When you're setting the crank/ cams at TDC, there is NO tension on the chain and the cams should be out. AFTER you get the proper marks lined up on the crank (crank TDC), then you line up the cam gears, you set the chain, THEN release the chain tensioner spring to put tension on the chain.

There's no way I can help you out to get to wherever you're going tomorrow, but I know for a fact that if you put the bike in the back of a truck or trailer and take it to Patrick at Motorcycles Unlimited, it'll be worth your time/ long drive up there.

, if he's not too swamped, he may be able to hook you up same day- barring the fact that there IS probably something else wrong with your engine. Most of the time, a bad tensioner will not cause a knock, it will usually almost always tap and get louder and louder.

Like Clay mentioned, a knock is almost always bearings.

Chances are too that if you cranked the engine with the tensioner off/ loose, that you bent some valves too.

Good luck dude.

Let me know if I can help, but I think you should get it to Motorcycles Unlimited as quickly as possible.
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i would be willing to look at it but i have my own bike back now and have got to start tearing it apart tomorrow, i can swing by and help you line everything back up but not going to promise that it will work. normally cranking it without the tensioner in means bent valves IF it is an interference motor. if it's not then you should be able to line it back up and go on about your merry ways. hit me up in the morning and i'll try to make some time to help you out.
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