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Old 01-06-2009, 10:39 AM   #41
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Which is apparently what most of the top riders want anyway.

They can't do away with electronics though, then Casey Stoner wouldn't win another race and Nicky Hayden would be battling with Rossi while the rest of the field is +20 seconds or more back!

In fact, dingo will smoke them all out at the start. Stoner doesn't use launch control where the rest of the field including Rossi uses it. THat tells you that dingo can ride without it, now Pedrosa, well we know what he can do without Launch control LOL.
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MotoGP racer John Hopkins told Roadracingworld.com that despite rumors to the contrary, he will not be racing a Superbike in the United States in 2009.

"No. Definitely not!" said Hopkins when reached on his cell phone today, as he worked to remove Christmas lights from his Southern California home. "No, I'll stay in the world series. If Kawasaki does pull out we'll do everything we can to stay in MotoGP racing."

Although Kawasaki team members were notified by e-mail that the company was pulling out of MotoGP racing in 2009, no official announcement has been made.

A meeting was held at the company's headquarters in Japan last week to discuss worldwide racing activities.

In the U.S., Roger Hayden is under a two-year (2008-2009) contract to ride a ZX-10R and a ZX-6R. Jamie Hacking turned down a Yamaha offer to renew with Kawasaki for the 2009 season, signing and returning a contract. But the contract has not yet been ratified and returned by Kawasaki Motors Corp. U.S.A.
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The only reason kawi has any decent sales numbers is becouse of ignorant people who know nothing about motorcycles who think becouse the bike says ninja on the side, its the fastest thing out there.
To call someone ignorant for owning a ninja is just ingnorant.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:49 AM   #45
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MotoGP: Dorna: Kawasaki must race, testing now!

Dorna CEO Carmelo Ezpeleta has warned Kawasaki that its ZX-RRs must race in MotoGP this season - something that is looking more likely after a subsequent revelation that factory test rider Olivier Jacque is on track in Australia.

Kawasaki, which officially announced that it was suspending its factory MotoGP activities on January 9, has a contract with Dorna to race in MotoGP until the end of 2011. Ezpeleta told La Gazetta dello Sport that he was willing to release Kawasaki from the final two years of that agreement, providing its bike are on the 2009 grid.

"There is an agreement until 2011, which Dorna has with all the factories," Ezpeleta told the sportspaper. "It cannot just be discarded.

"I have told Kawasaki that I would not accept this contract being broken and, since they have said that the costs for this season are budgeted, I have proposed that they race in 2009. In exchange I will release them from 2010 and 2011.

"The problem with this is that Kawasaki says it only has engines built for 25% of the championship and that they don't want to develop the rest. Therefore I am searching for a structure, in France, to do this for them. The final obstacle will be to get the Japanese to meet these people and agree to this scenario."

When asked how optimistic he was of success, Ezpeleta declared "I think that it will all be resolved" then stated that Kawasaki are testing today (Wednesday) and that he expects the current team structure to remain.

"Today Olivier Jacque is testing at Eastern Creek, in Australia. The team will continue to be managed by Michael Bartholemy and it is important to safeguard the futures of John Hopkins and Marco Melandri."

Despite such optimism, Ezpeleta once again warned Kawasaki that it cannot simply walk away: "If Kawasaki will not race, I will take them to court."

Those words could also be seen as warning to any other manufacturers thinking of quitting.

Ezpeleta also added that he wants a series of cost cutting measures - such as a reduction in testing, and engines that last for two or three grand prix weekends - agreed before the start of this season and is aiming to boost grid numbers to 20 riders for 2010.

Kawasaki's apparent withdraw had reduced the 2009 MotoGP field to just 17 riders.
good news or bad news, I'm not sure
hate it when the legals get involved,
potentially somebody else building the engines, probably Seuter
how successful has "come play or we'll kick your " ever been????????????????
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This will never work. They'll put in a KR attempt and end up being lapped in the race because they're not going to spend any money on the effort.

, just charge them a penalty (like the 30 mil they "already budgeted") and let them fade away. They'll come back, they always do
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good news or bad news, I'm not sure
hate it when the legals get involved,
potentially somebody else building the engines, probably Seuter
how successful has "come play or we'll kick your " ever been????????????????
At this point it is not about success, it is about putting warm bodies on the grid. I think it was cool of him to release Kawasaki from their 2010 & 2011 obligations. At least that shows some flexibility on Dorna's part.
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At this point it is not about success, it is about putting warm bodies on the grid. I think it was cool of him to release Kawasaki from their 2010 & 2011 obligations. At least that shows some flexibility on Dorna's part.
Putting warm bodies on the grid for the sole purpose of saying "we have a 20 bike field" can't be good for the sport. How about the poor suckers they're going to pay peanuts for that get their lapped by the half way marker? IF their bikes stay running that long to make it to half way...

It pained me to see the "poor" teams or the poorly supported teams get lapped in the premiere class consistently. Just seemed wasteful to be out there like that.
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'tis a no win situation for everybody apart from the real die hard Kawa fan
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Putting warm bodies on the grid for the sole purpose of saying "we have a 20 bike field" can't be good for the sport. How about the poor suckers they're going to pay peanuts for that get their lapped by the half way marker? IF their bikes stay running that long to make it to half way...

It pained me to see the "poor" teams or the poorly supported teams get lapped in the premiere class consistently. Just seemed wasteful to be out there like that.
It is that way in every level of motorsports. Remember Mat & Ben usually lapped up to 8th or 10th place by the end of the race. In F1 the front runners usually lap half of the field by the end of the race. Heck even in WSS & WSBK they usually lap 4-5 riders by the end, and IMHO that is one of the most talent filled grids in the world.
People race because they love the competition. I'm sure they all want to win, but at some point your doing it for the love of it.
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It is that way in every level of motorsports. Remember Mat & Ben usually lapped up to 8th or 10th place by the end of the race. In F1 the front runners usually lap half of the field by the end of the race. Heck even in WSS & WSBK they usually lap 4-5 riders by the end, and IMHO that is one of the most talent filled grids in the world.
People race because they love the competition. I'm sure they all want to win, but at some point your doing it for the love of it.
While I know you're right, the difference is that in MotoGP they're spending $30 million dollars, and in WSBK or AMA, they may spend as little as $1 million and still make the grid.

I just see it as a lose-lose situation. I'm a cynic on this one I guess...
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The only reason kawi has any decent sales numbers is becouse of ignorant people who know nothing about motorcycles who think becouse the bike says ninja on the side, its the fastest thing out there.
First of all I own a ninja and have had good luck with it for the most part and truely like and enjoy it. Not really brand loyal cause all mfg. have good and bad
BUT

The ignorant azz statement above sounds more like what is going on with the BUSA crowd
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Spanish magazine Solo Moto reports that there is a '50%' chance of Kawasaki lettings its ZX-RRs remain in MotoGP next season, but that the final decision has been delayed due to reliability concerns with the new machine.

Despite signing Marco Melandri on a multi-year deal to partner John Hopkins in 2009, and development of the new ZX-RR being well advanced, Kawasaki Heavy Industries announced on January 9 that it had 'decided to suspend its MotoGP racing activities from 2009 season onward and reallocate management resources more efficiently' in response to the global financial crises.

But Dorna, facing a slim 17 rider grid, is unwilling to allow Kawasaki to simply walk away from the remaining three years of its MotoGP contract, instead offering to release the company from the 2010 and 2011 seasons providing its machines were still on the grid in 2009 - and warning that they would 'take Kawasaki to court' if they were absent.

Dorna, Kawasaki and race team boss Michael Bartholemy have since been working on a solution that would allow Bartholemy and other former factory team members to run the ZX-RRs as a privateer entry in 2009, with possible assistance from an outside engineering company - Kawasaki only having enough engines built for 25% of the season.

Kawasaki's subsequent decision to test at Eastern Creek and then Phillip Island proved that the ZX-RR project was not as dead as the initial KHI announcement indicated, but it seems that those tests also raised concerns over the 'all-new' 2009 machine's reliability.

As a result, Solo Moto states that Kawasaki has delayed a final decision on whether to let the ZX-RRs race until the end of this week - by which time a further Phillip Island test will have been completed. The report added that “at present there is a 50% chance of Kawasaki being on the MotoGP grid in 2009”.

Kawasaki, the only MotoGP manufacturer not to win a race since the four-stroke era began in 2002, took a best finish of fifth last season with Hopkins and Anthony West.
on top of everything else now reliability concerns
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Qatar test to decide Kawasaki/|Marco Melandri fate

Marco Melandri is expected to test a Kawasaki ZX-RR in Qatar next week, but the Italian is not yet convinced he will start the 2009 season.

In a further confusing twist to the on-going Kawasaki saga, MCN understands Melandri will decide whether he will be part of a one-rider Kawasaki team based on the competitiveness of the bike at next week’s three night test session under floodlights at the Losail International Circuit.

Melandri has spoken of his intention to be part of the new squad, but even he is now sceptical whether a project thrown together at the last minute has any chance of success.

With reports from two Australia tests conducted by Olivier Jacque suggesting the 2009 prototype ZX-RR is no better than last year’s disastrous model, Melandri wants to form his own judgement in Qatar before he commits to a deal for the season.

A source close to the Italian told MCN: “ The mission is to test in Qatar and then decide if it is worth carrying on. This is logical, because if Marco is in Qatar and three seconds off the pace, then it is better to stop. We are not positive.

"Marco has accepted to race but only if everything is proper. If it is just to put a bike on the grid for the sake of it, it is a waste of time.”

As the farcical Kawasaki story drags on, further confusion emerged last week.

A new team, which will not use Kawasaki’s name, will be run by Technical Director Ichiro Yoda, who has managed to recruit some of the team’s former mechanics return, even though their contracts for 2009 were all paid up for 2009.

What is certain is that former team boss Michael Bartholemy is not part of any new plan to race in 2009, though he has still to make any public comment since Kawasaki announced it would quit MotoGP on January 9 because of the global economic crisis.
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Wasn't Melandri already in contract to race cars?
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Wasn't Melandri already in contract to race cars?
no, just another one off this weekend
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Melandri will race Kawasaki in MotoGP

Marco Melandri will race a Kawasaki in MotoGP this season after a deal was struck between the manufacturer and Dorna to enter a one-rider team.

Despite signing Melandri on a multi-year deal to partner John Hopkins in 2009, and development of the new ZX-RR well advanced, Kawasaki Heavy Industries announced on January 9 that it had 'decided to suspend its MotoGP racing activities from 2009 season onward and reallocate management resources more efficiently' in response to the global financial crises.

But Dorna, facing a slim 17 rider grid, was unwilling to allow Kawasaki to simply walk away from the remaining three years of its MotoGP contract, instead offering to release the company from the 2010 and 2011 seasons providing its machines were still on the grid in 2009 - and warning that they would 'take Kawasaki to court' if they were absent.

Dorna and Kawasaki have since been working on a solution that would satisfy both parties - and it is thought the decision to put one bike on the grid is an attempt by Kawasaki to minimise costs, whilst avoiding the possible financial penalty for breaking their MotoGP contract.

While full details of the new project are yet to be confirmed, it is understood that Kawasaki will supply the one-rider team with the necessary machines, parts and technical support

However, it isn't so clear how involved Kawasaki will be in the day-to-day running of the team, or indeed who will even head the squad - former boss Michael Bartholemy was known to be trying to run the ZX-RRs as a privateer team, but has been silent since the official withdraw.

The future of John Hopkins is an even bigger question mark. Was Hopkins offered the chance to ride alongside Melandri and turned it down, or did the new agreement effectively force the #21 off the premier-class grid?

A short statement from Kawasaki said:
“Kawasaki announces that after constructive talks between Kawasaki, Dorna and other involved parties, a new one-rider Team will participate in the 2009 MotoGP Championship season.

“This decision was made after negotiations that followed Kawasaki's January 2009 announcement to suspend its factory supported MotoGP activities due to the economic crisis. Rider for the new MotoGP team will be the Italian Marco Melandri.

“The team will be equipped with Kawasaki motorcycles and supporting materials.

“That Kawasaki has come to this new team approach is the result of on the one hand the need for a strong reduction of MotoGP racing investments and on the other hand the necessity to come to constructive solutions for all related parties.

“The new team will disclose more details about its 2009 season's plans on a short notice.”

Melandri, who is due to make his second Speedcar appearance at Dubai on Friday and Saturday, is now expected to join his 2009 MotoGP rivals at the Qatar test, which starts on Sunday.

Melandri has already missed the Sepang test, although Kawasaki's test squad was in action at Eastern Creek and Phillip Island in January.

Kawasaki, the only MotoGP manufacturer not to win a race since the four-stroke era began in 2002, took a best finish of fifth last season with Hopkins and Anthony West, but had high hopes of an improvement from its brand new 2009 racer.


Glad we get to see Marco but sadly I suspect it will be as a backmarker,
sucks for Hopper.
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Since they are getting a late start, Kawasaki will have another excuse for having poor results to add to the many it already has.

Poor Hopper. It looks like he has to find a real job, now; everyone knows he's a -poor development rider, so even finding that kind of gig will likely be tough for him.
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