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Old 12-18-2008, 09:59 AM   #1
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SEE-DECIDE-REACT in 1.6 seconds

maybe a repost but was interesting...

A picture is worth a thousand words.

The Honda rider was traveling at such a 'very high speed', his reaction time was not sufficient enough to avoid this accident. Swedish Police estimate a speed of ~250 KM/h (155 mph) before the bike hit the slow moving car side-on at an intersection. At that speed, they predicted that the rider's reaction time (once the vehicle came into view) wasn't sufficient enough for him to even apply the brakes. The car had two passengers and the bike rider was found INSIDE the car with them. The Volkswagen actually flipped over from the force of impact and landed 10 feet from where the collision took place.

All three involved (two in car and rider) were killed instantly. This graphic demonstration was placed at the Stockholm Motorcycle Fair by the Swedish Police and Road Safety Department. The sign above the display also noted that the rider had only recently obtained his license.

At 250 KM (155 mph) the operator is traveling at 227 feet per second. With normal reaction time to SEE-DECIDE-REACT of 1.6 seconds the above operator would have travelled over 363 feet while making a decision on what actions to take. In this incident the Swedish police indicate that no actions were taken.
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It is a repost, but one that should be done every couple of months or so, IMHO of course.
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:18 AM   #5
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:22 AM   #6
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thats the first time i've seen the pic of the actual accident scene.
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:24 AM   #7
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Oh well good reminder though
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wow. Thats disturbing.
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when I worked at Lubrizol they sent it out as a safety bulletin about 5 or 6 years ago, thought it was cool but sad all at the same time, all 3 of the people died in the accident
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sad, very sad.
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... :-) might keep in mind their stating a reaction time of 1.6 seconds.

I think anything better than 2.0 seconds (and even that) is pushing it for most folx.
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Old 12-18-2008, 02:21 PM   #12
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... :-) might keep in mind their stating a reaction time of 1.6 seconds.

I think anything better than 2.0 seconds (and even that) is pushing it for most folx.
This is why is it imperative that riders, particularly the fast riders, look as far down the track, through the turns, and down the road as possible. Looking really far ahead gives riders a huge advantage in identifying risks on the street or reference points on the track. Same thing with people who dramatically turn their head to look through corners, like we see in many race pictures.

Looking far ahead helps to prevent situations wherein you only have 1.6 seconds to react, decide, and take action.

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Old 12-18-2008, 02:25 PM   #13
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Can any body say what kinda bike that is?
Interesting that the fairing clearly says Honda but it looks like a Ducati to me.
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It was an RC45 if memory serves... possibly an RC30.

Old photos, been around the 'net for a long time.

I've got some personal photos over the years from mc accident scenes that would blow yall's minds (happened to the rider's). Most folks would be surprised to see the stuff that DOESN'T make it on to the 6 o'clock news.
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It was an RC45 if memory serves... possibly an RC30.

Old photos, been around the 'net for a long time.

I've got some personal photos over the years from mc accident scenes that would blow yall's minds (happened to the rider's). Most folks would be surprised to see the stuff that DOESN'T make it on to the 6 o'clock news.
Of course it's awful what happened, but couldn't he have done that on a CX500 or some other ugly POS?
What a shame that he wasted such a nice bike.
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Old 12-19-2008, 04:48 AM   #16
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makes think twice when you ride at high speeds
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thats the first time i've seen the pic of the actual accident scene.
me too and I've been here since the forums inception, so I'm guessing a repost of 3 year old is ok, since I got to see it now. Those poor people in the car didnt have a chance
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I have not seen that.

Never a good idea to speed, particularly in areas where cross traffic is a possibility.

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