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Old 12-09-2008, 11:59 AM   #1
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Anyone here have Bazzaz Z-AFM

Hey everyone, Bazzaz makes this system that plugs right into the stock harness, injector harness, and couple other things to optimize fuel management like the PCIII or something similar. But is allot more simple and because this unit plugs into and controls all eight injectors, it is supposedly better.

Anyway, they also make this unit that plugs into the aftermarket Bazzaz unit called Z-AFM Air Fuel Mapping Kit, that self maps while ridding. But, what allot of people do is borrow this part, just to get there little self tune and is somewhat unnecessary after.

So does anyone here have this product? Any input is appreciated.



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Old 12-09-2008, 12:56 PM   #2
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we have one on mancuso's endurance bike and it works perfectly. even has traction control
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my brother has one on his 07 GSXR w/the self tuning kit .Its great
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It is not self tuning.The AFR kit logs your Air Fuel ratio and will show you a recommended map.It is very easy to use though.And no dyno time needed
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It is not self tuning.The AFR kit logs your Air Fuel ratio and will show you a recommended map.It is very easy to use though.And no dyno time needed
Can you give more info on this...?

I've emailed them with several questions but haven't heard back yet.
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It is not self tuning.The AFR kit logs your Air Fuel ratio and will show you a recommended map.It is very easy to use though.And no dyno time needed
The term they use is Self Mapping. So it will create a map and you can then use. It's virtually the same thing.

Z-AFM Air Fuel Mapping Kit Option


The optional Z-AFM kit consists of an air fuel sensor and amplifier box that plugs into the any of the Z-Fi products, and allows for self-mapping of the motorcycle. Self-mapping means that as the user rides the bike, on the track or on a dynamometer, the Z-Fi automatically calculates the required fuel adjustment at each RPM and Throttle Position to reach the user selectable target air fuel ratio.
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i dont have the AFM kit yet, i have the Fi-Qs set up and need to add it on. So far NO complaints of the BAZZAZ
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the only downfall of the Bazzazz is you cant upgrade from the FI (adding quickshift or traction control) You have to buy it together, which is pricy to do all at once, but i have no regrets spending the extra money upfront for the QS. Motomummy had some great prices!
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The term they use is Self Mapping. So it will create a map and you can then use. It's virtually the same thing.

Z-AFM Air Fuel Mapping Kit Option


The optional Z-AFM kit consists of an air fuel sensor and amplifier box that plugs into the any of the Z-Fi products, and allows for self-mapping of the motorcycle. Self-mapping means that as the user rides the bike, on the track or on a dynamometer, the Z-Fi automatically calculates the required fuel adjustment at each RPM and Throttle Position to reach the user selectable target air fuel ratio.
What features does the Z-Fi offer over basic fuel adjustments? Can you log/record the entire run for review and tuning later? Does it offer any type of manifold air pressure, cylinder head temperature, exhaust gas temperature, injector duty cycle, etc. recording or logging for later view???

For the quick shift function, is the kill ignition or fuel based? I want to make sure it's ignition based so I don't blow anything up running forced induction down the road.

As far as the AFM system, do I have to run the bike 100% through 6th gear to get the fuel mapping or can I input a 20% increase over stock for initial tuning/baseline (to keep from going lean) and then auto map from that? Will it allow the ECU to maintain the A/F ratio that I designate or do I have to apply changes from the initial run file and map every pass?
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For the quick shift function, is the kill ignition or fuel based? I want to make sure it's ignition based so I don't blow anything up running forced induction down the road.

it is ignition kill
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What features does the Z-Fi offer over basic fuel adjustments? Can you log/record the entire run for review and tuning later? Does it offer any type of manifold air pressure, cylinder head temperature, exhaust gas temperature, injector duty cycle, etc. recording or logging for later view???

For the quick shift function, is the kill ignition or fuel based? I want to make sure it's ignition based so I don't blow anything up running forced induction down the road.

As far as the AFM system, do I have to run the bike 100% through 6th gear to get the fuel mapping or can I input a 20% increase over stock for initial tuning/baseline (to keep from going lean) and then auto map from that? Will it allow the ECU to maintain the A/F ratio that I designate or do I have to apply changes from the initial run file and map every pass?
i know this thread is about 2 weeks old, but i noticed that no one answered your questions.

the "basic fuel" adjustments that the pc3 offers are limited b/c it only controls 4 injectors, where as the bazzaz controls all 8 (at least on an R6, it's how it works). yes, you can record MULTIPLE runs, up to 30 hours, i believe, of logging with the AFM kit. i'm not sure as to whether or not if offers additional tuning options (gas temps, pressures, duty cycles, etc.). i keep mine pretty "apply all" and it's good to go.

as for the quick-shift: from my understanding, it is an ignition-kill for a tiny fraction of a second.

once you start noticing your logs in the +/-5% range, your map is pretty close. 5% isnt' anything to remap over. as far as changing the AF ratio at higher RPMs.. yes, you can manually do this. once you set it up like that, it'll map based on your required AF ratio. and you dont' have to push the bike to the limits to get a map... in fact, too quick through the rpm ranges, and it'll discard the reading b/c it wasn't kept in that rpm range long enough for it to "feel comfortable" with suggesting a fuel change. you could go 40 mph top speed and do that for 10 minutes. when you're done, you'll have suggestions that go up to, probably, the 5-6k rpm range... and nothing will be logged after that.

it's a pretty slick setup. good luck man.

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