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Old 12-01-2008, 05:01 PM   #1
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10 riding tips from the Doctor himself.

Hope is not a repost but even if it is, the video is worth watching

http://www.ebike-ridingtips.co.uk/vi...file=rossi.flv

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Old 12-01-2008, 05:30 PM   #2
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Excellent find. I just hope the novice will take their time in applying each strategy. Some of those techniques take quite some time before they should even be attempted by some.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:10 PM   #3
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:20 PM   #4
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Thanks for posting that. Very informative.

As for the rear braking technique. I'll leave that to the pros lol.
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:38 PM   #5
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Good find +1 to the new guys and some of the things, Im still learning the rear brake and the things it can help with.
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:59 PM   #6
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I enjoyed the video... very inciteful.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:04 PM   #7
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watched it like 10 times
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:21 AM   #9
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yea i can see a bunch of newbs trying what he said. haha. please be careful great find
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Good find, but really, Vale isn't doing any teaching, Andy Ibott is just critiquing Vale's riding.

Good vid none the less.
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man, who said ya never use the rear brake on the track...I just found the secret to 5 more HP and it does'nt require any funny "S" shaped stickers either. Can't wait to try that $hit out. I'll end up going then followed shortly by and . Good find it was worth the watch.
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I think I am going to try the rear brake technique on 3090. I'll report back on Monday.
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I think I am going to try the rear brake technique on 3090. I'll report back on Monday.
There is nothing wrong with using the rear brake. Use it by all means. Just make sure you do it safely.

I would recommend practicing it on a SuperMoto (450/550) or maybe smaller bike like a Mini Tard (100/150). Once you get the feel of when it locks up, when it slides, when it only slows you down, you'll find yourself using it ALOT!

It only works effectively in slow, sharp corners where rather then exagerating the lean you can just sort of drift into it with your front positioned to hit the exit already - all that's left is getting on the gas coming out of it!

Practice Practice Practice...

Small bikes - practice Katy's Turn 4, Denton's Turn 2 & 7.
Big Bikes - practice Cresson's rattlesnakes (entering it going CCW).

I'm not sure why the majority of instructors say to Level 2 guys "don't use your rear brake" etc etc. I believe if your in Level 2, you should be encouraged to slowly start practicing it "in a safe manner" as its a great way to pass people, defend your line, catch up on tenths on your laptime, etc etc.

Flame on - but I still think if mastered it is one of the best techniques and weapons to be used in your arsenal.
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Old 12-02-2008, 11:49 AM   #14
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There is nothing wrong with using the rear brake. Use it by all means. Just make sure you do it safely.

I would recommend practicing it on a SuperMoto (450/550) or maybe smaller bike like a Mini Tard (100/150). Once you get the feel of when it locks up, when it slides, when it only slows you down, you'll find yourself using it ALOT!

It only works effectively in slow, sharp corners where rather then exagerating the lean you can just sort of drift into it with your front positioned to hit the exit already - all that's left is getting on the gas coming out of it!

Practice Practice Practice...

Small bikes - practice Katy's Turn 4, Denton's Turn 2 & 7.
Big Bikes - practice Cresson's rattlesnakes (entering it going CCW).

I'm not sure why the majority of instructors say to Level 2 guys "don't use your rear brake" etc etc. I believe if your in Level 2, you should be encouraged to slowly start practicing it "in a safe manner" as its a great way to pass people, defend your line, catch up on tenths on your laptime, etc etc.

Flame on - but I still think if mastered it is one of the best techniques and weapons to be used in your arsenal.
I was kidding about 3090. I am just getting trailbraking with the front down. I find myself braking to hard and needing to get back on the gas before apex. I think I am scrubbing off too much speed too quickly.

Practice practice practice.

Once I feel comfortable with that, I will work on the rear.
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I was kidding about 3090. I am just getting trailbraking with the front down. I find myself braking to hard and needing to get back on the gas before apex. I think I am scrubbing off too much speed too quickly.

Practice practice practice.

Once I feel comfortable with that, I will work on the rear.
Cdill, you're fine, apparently only one person didn't get your comment. Ignore the noobs and find folks that actually have experience to give you advice.
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I was kidding about 3090. I am just getting trailbraking with the front down. I find myself braking to hard and needing to get back on the gas before apex. I think I am scrubbing off too much speed too quickly.

Practice practice practice.

Once I feel comfortable with that, I will work on the rear.
Yea I know you were kidding, not many people here have the to do that on 3090 anyways.

I was just stating that we should use rear brakes, its there for a reason.

Keep practicing...
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Cdill, you're fine, apparently only one person didn't get your comment. Ignore the noobs and find folks that actually have experience to give you advice.
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I enjoy your comments of hate against me Tom, its fun ignoring them .

Waay to represent your sponsors aswell...

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grow up and go save some lives will ya?
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California Superbike School actually teaches you to slide the rear into corners. They have a special bike with training wheels attached to the frame to keep you from low/high siding.

I've only seen it in their advertisments.........but it seems like a perfect system to show how it works.

Maybe some peoples around here could get something like that going.......*cough* *cough*

Then again they have guys like Keith Code running the school...... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I've always been tempted to try sliding the rear.......but I always chicken out. Guys like Larry Meyers make it look so easy.......
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(post ignore)....

I enjoy your comments of hate against me Tom, its fun ignoring them .

Waay to represent your sponsors aswell...

Mr.Mafioso... lol

grow up and go save some lives will ya?
Couple of points here to the expert racer:

1. What makes you think my comments are directed to you? Paranoid?

2. "Ignoring me" would be not replying to me, I think the term you're searching for is " hurt" not "ignoring". As in, "It's fun being hurt all the time Tom."

3. "As well" is two words, look it up, then edit your hundreds of posts where you mis-spell it over and over and over and over.

4. I don't remember mentioning any sponsors or representing any of them.

5. The "Mafia" thing is something someone else came up with and it's funny if you know what it's about, obviously, as in road racing and many other things, you're clueless.

6. You really want to compare "growing up" with your life vs mine? I dare you.

You're a typical wannabe squid who thinks they've got all the answers and resent authority and experience for some reason. If you would humble down and actually listen, you might learn something.
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Old 12-02-2008, 02:27 PM   #20
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settle down now boys....

that video is ....if you wanna go fast....just be sure to eat your wheaties. the breakfast of champions!
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