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Old 11-26-2008, 10:26 AM   #21
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a dremel will cut through it. but i'd use my chain breaker.

i'd cut the top side before it runs through the countershaft.

then remove chain, and maybe take a punch and hammer and knock the bottle necked portion out.
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Old 11-26-2008, 10:47 AM   #22
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I good size screwdriver, or cutting it out with cutoff wheel or chainbreaker
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Old 11-26-2008, 11:03 AM   #23
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Dummies, Just put it in reverse and unwind it
That actually would be the first thing I would try - the higher the gear it is in the better the chance (5th would work better than 1st). Sit on it and try backing it up - try hard - if you have to, pull the clutch in - roll it back and while it's rolling pop the clutch as you bounce your weight down to keep the wheel from spinning. Of course for this to work the remaining part of the chain has to be over the rear sprocket - more the wrap the better - tape or tie the loose end of the chain as far around the sprocket as possible to hold it when you try it - DON'T TRY TO HAVE SOMEONE HOLD IT IN PLACE WITH THEIR FINGERS!
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That actually would be the first thing I would try - the higher the gear it is in the better the chance (5th would work better than 1st). Sit on it and try backing it up - try hard - if you have to, pull the clutch in - roll it back and while it's rolling pop the clutch as you bounce your weight down to keep the wheel from spinning. Of course for this to work the remaining part of the chain has to be over the rear sprocket - more the wrap the better - tape or tie the loose end of the chain as far around the sprocket as possible to hold it when you try it - DON'T TRY TO HAVE SOMEONE HOLD IT IN PLACE WITH THEIR FINGERS!
I think he tried that, but we'll try this first (just in case). Let me get it right, you are suggesting wrapping the "top" portion of the chain over the rear sprocket, zip tie that end to the sprocket to keep it in place and then roll the bike backwards? Wouldn't this work in neutral as opposed to in gear? I'm pretty sure this sucker is so tight that it won't budge, but we will try this first. Seems logical.
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Old 11-26-2008, 11:32 AM   #25
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i'm thinking it will probably be too tight to try backing it out. regardless, i'd do it in neutral so the countershaft sprocket will rotate freely.

but i'd try to free that budged portion first with a hammer. knocking it forward
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I would first put the chain on the back wheel and roll it backward hard and fast. If that doesn't work, I would try to remove the front sprocket by just removing that c clips. If those two doesn't work, no grinder is gonna help because if you grind the pin on one side, it is very difficult to put a tool to push the link off or removing the pin/link from the inside.
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Old 11-26-2008, 04:29 PM   #29
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just drive to houston and buy me a 6 pack and it will be off in 5 min..
I'm capable of doing this, maybe not in 5 minutes, but I'll handle it. I just wanted to see what suggestions were gonna get thrown out. I bought a grinder, but I have a feeling it won't work. Just not enough room to really get in there there with a 4" disc., I already put it up to my bike and I'm pretty sure it's too tight. I'll probably do it over the course of a 12 pack while watching the A&M periodically. I'm capable, I just want it to be the most efficient process.
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Danny when are you leaving? Maybe you can swing by here and we can give it a shot.
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You can't pry a large screwdriver in a link against the swingarm pivot? I'd work it out a little at a time.
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I think he tried that, but we'll try this first (just in case). Let me get it right, you are suggesting wrapping the "top" portion of the chain over the rear sprocket, zip tie that end to the sprocket to keep it in place and then roll the bike backwards? Wouldn't this work in neutral as opposed to in gear? I'm pretty sure this sucker is so tight that it won't budge, but we will try this first. Seems logical.
You are right about the way I invisioned connecting the chain to the rear sprocket for this attempt. You are also right that it doesn't need to be in gear - my mistake. If it is stuck in gear and you can't get it out because of the jam - you would be better off pulling in the clutch when you try this - you could also have someone stand in front and grab the handlebars while you are sitting on it and the other person (hopefully big / heavy / and strong) can help you in your effort to roll it backwards - good luck.
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get that diamond wheel for it and u will be through that chain in a jiffy
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try putting the top part of the chain on the rear sprocket and try to leave as much slack as possible and while on neutral push back as hard as possible, you might need some weight on the bike. you might also wana try the bottom portion of the chain also and keep it on the sprocket with zip ties or something and push forward. Remember to leave slack.
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thanks for the suggestion guys...Unfortunately, the bike is up here in DFW. I just put a 4" grinder up to my bike (I have a 97 and his is a 98...essentially the same bike) and it seems too tight. We're gonna give the whole unwinding thing a try and if that doesn't work we'll end up working it out piece by piece with a dremel/pry bar. I brought a whole kit (40 cut off wheels), so it shouldn't be an issue.

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Danny, remove the cs sprocket guard & use your dremel on the chain rivet at point a (or a chainbreaker if you have enough room), take a long heavy punch & drive the chain out at points b & c...Chain tension is against the plastic chainguide (around the swingarm) which will give enough to allow slack; The chain is roached... Get physical with it.
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Danny, remove the cs sprocket guard & use your dremel on the chain rivet at point a (or a chainbreaker if you have enough room), take a long heavy punch & drive the chain out at points b & c...Chain tension is against the plastic chainguide (around the swingarm) which will give enough to allow slack; The chain is roached... Get physical with it.
thanks dude, we'll take that route if the unwinding doesn't work.
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Remove your swing arm and it will fall out.... There is never a bad time to inspect your needle bearings and linkage and apply fresh grease anyways. If you get to physical you risk knocking a hole in the case and/or up the counter shaft. Removing the swing arm on a dirt scooter is as easy as changing the tire.
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