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Old 11-23-2008, 09:04 PM   #1
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trackheads , and knee draggers question

ive been watching some videos online and came across a few mcn vids about the proper lean angles , but after watching a few vids of peeps track days it seems that you guys lean diff than this guys is stating, if im understanding correctly, hes sayin "lean the top half off and keep your end on the bike", but what it seems i see in most vids is bottom half on the bike and head seems to be inline with the gas tank. i was trying to get a feel for diff body positioning this past week, and when i did the top half off the side the bike felt extremely unstable , but when i did what i was used to doing i felt fine just had to get down lower is all, i know i need some track exp, but just looking for some opinions is all and watch this vid tell me what you guys think thanks


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Old 11-23-2008, 09:14 PM   #2
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Dr Gonzo spent some time speaking with me and helping me understand stragety w my problems w left corners(had surgeries on left ankle and couldnt push myself to corner left.)

To the right I can hang off the bike comfortably but as he mentioned... Im stretching to find the ground. By twisting your hips you can drop your center/chest over the side of the bike. A slide a little on the seat to the left but very little and ended up hitting the timing case cover while riding and dragging that knee and boot. Where as right hand corners I would knee down and let my knee come in as I came lower and lower.
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If you are referring to some of teh vids I posted, you gotta remember that those guys are novice riders, so yes, they are a lil twisted up and "swiveling" around teh tank.

I will let the guys, on MH, that know what they are talkin about tell ya about body posistion.

All I know, is that there only a few "no-no's" but ALOT of different body posistion styles and opinions, all of which, are acceptable and on a "what works best for me" kind of thing.

For example, I was told to put half my off the seat. But then told differently, by a SUPER FAST guy.

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Old 11-23-2008, 09:38 PM   #4
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here...this guy is easier to understand. lol

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Old 11-23-2008, 09:38 PM   #5
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If you are referring to some of teh vids I posted, you gotta remember that those guys are novice riders, so yes, they are a lil twisted up and "swiveling" around teh tank.

I will let the guys, on MH, that know what they are talkin about tell ya about body posistion.

All I know, is that there only a few "no-no's" but ALOT of different body posistion styles and opinions, all of which, are acceptable and on a "what works best for me" kind of thing.

For example, I was told to put half my off the seat. But then told differently, by a SUPER FAST guy.
well my bike being a sport touring, sort of, when i do the top half off and when i come up the bikes rear starts to wobbles hard, vs when i use my bottom half to slide off and keep my tp half with the tank it seems alot more stable and i have control , is this a bike thing? when i had my old r6 i did the same thing but i can imagine using top half to hang off because of the bikes aggresive bbody positioning,
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Old 11-23-2008, 09:42 PM   #6
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[QUOTE=cdill35;1593189]here...this guy is easier to understand. lol

lol yeah kinda hard to understand wtf the guy was talkin about in the one i posted , something about crocks aand queen of england
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here...this guy is easier to understand. lol

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When i lean into a corner I keep my spine parallel with the bike, moving both the top and bottom equally, just how I was taught and learned.
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Old 11-24-2008, 07:38 AM   #9
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It also depends on the speed in the corner. Tighter/slower corners opening the hips into the corner helps the bike turn, where as higher speed corners is not as much of an issue.

Everyone has a little different build and comfort level, we all don't bend as much the same way. Ideally you want you head and shoulders down even with the inside mirror. Don't get into the habit of pushing the bike down and trying to stay upright; bend the inside elbow and get the outside forearm and knee up against the side of the tank.
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:43 AM   #10
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Body position is a lot subjective. Some of the fastest riders EVER have unconventional/wrong/bad body position. If doing a certain thing with your body is uncomfortable and/or makes you feel unstable its wrong for you.....whether or not it fits the predetermined idea of what the "right" body position looks like really doesn't matter if attempting it makes you slower.
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alot of diff points of view, i was pretty much trying to compare techniques to what i do to what i hear to what i see other people do
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alot of diff points of view, i was pretty much trying to compare techniques to what i do to what i hear to what i see other people do

Try some stuff people say. If it works use it, if it makes you uncomfortable don't. Too many people focus too much on getting a knee down as if thats the goal of riding a bike. Its a RESULT not a goal. The goal is being fast. I'd rather pass slow people with perfect body position (my body position is ) than look good going slow.
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Old 11-25-2008, 08:50 AM   #13
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I think the biggest issue is getting your weight completely onto the inside peg. This lowers your center of gravity on the bike and actually allows the bike to lean less and make more speed through a turn. Which is what you want. You want to lean over, not the bike. Getting the center of gravity closer to the inside of the turns allows for much more tire traction with less of an angle on the bike.
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