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Old 11-11-2008, 10:25 PM   #1
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I don't see why not. All I hear is that they are the perfect in-between bike. Nimble enough to dive into corners at serious speed and get around liter bikes, with enough power to come screaming out of the corners and down straights leaving 600's behind...needless to say, I want one.
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:40 AM   #3
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You can race a 600 in more classes than a 750. And Kawi doesnt make a 750 so I see no reason to ride one
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636 is garbage!!! ill race u on my 750
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Old 11-12-2008, 02:27 AM   #5
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Depends on skill level you possessed. Ty's lap time is only 1 seconds from 1k to a 750/600. Having bigger engine doesn't mean that you are faster. It's more embarassing to be passed by someone with a smaller engine/bike.
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im not a racer guy but i hear alot of people saying how much fun they have on 250's and sv's. 600 is more then enough for the tracks around here. Prolly can have more fun on a bigger track like TWS (Texas World Speedway), but not the smaller more technical ones.
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:38 AM   #7
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im not a racer guy but i hear alot of people saying how much fun they have on 250's and sv's. 600 is more then enough for the tracks around here. Prolly can have more fun on a bigger track like TWS (Texas World Speedway), but not the smaller more technical ones.
I disagree Dean. I have just as much fun on my 1K at GSS as I do on a 600 or a 65 out there. You just have to know how to ride them
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I disagree Dean. I have just as much fun on my 1K at GSS as I do on a 600 or a 65 out there. You just have to know how to ride them
i agree to be disagreeable, but u r a "Special Case"

Chriss dont take godzuki's words literally, he's kinda in his own world just look at his avatar


Just kidding, but seriously you r right in that you have to know how to ride it, i am just going off of others words as I stated. I am going to play Racer X, "Do you think it safer/wiser for him to be looking for 750/600 for his track bike?"
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You can race a 600 in more classes than a 750. And Kawi doesnt make a 750 so I see no reason to ride one
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600s have a lot more flexibility with more classes, the 750 really only has one that it "fits" in. And like Gabe said, there's only one manufacturer that makes the 750 any more.

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636 is just fine!!! ill race u on my 750so you can hand me my on that 636 and make me look like a fool
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Old 11-12-2008, 09:43 AM   #10
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Fun is relative. I can have fun riding a lawnmower around a racetrack as long as things are kept in perspective, e.g. everyone else is on a lawnmower, too, or, they're not, but my lawnmower handles well and is pretty quick.

I think you have to divide your question into two halves: racing and track day bike. As stated above, 750s are only supported by Suzuki these days. It's a great bike, but for racing, you're limited to fewer classes with it. (Still more than you can probably afford to race, but whatever.) The 600 is allowed into more classes because you can "ride up" classes, so there's that advantage.

As a track day bike, it's kind of a wash. You might enjoy the extra wheaties of the 750 so you can muscle past slower bikes on the straights, but the 600 will be more than most mortals can use on most race tracks 'cause, you see, there's a turn at the end of the straight.

My recommendation between the two would be 600, which really works out to be about the perfect balance between handling, speed and fun. (You didn't mention bikes like the SV650, so I'm not going to address them.) As a bonus, tires will last a bit longer on a 600 than a 750.

But what do I know? I'm just a racer and this isn't an interview and you didn't ask for my resume.
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Old 11-12-2008, 09:48 AM   #11
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I would love to see that
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I have no real input hear as I have only ridden 750's in the past 8 years. I personally like the 750, but I'm a fairly big dude...not Maxgs big, but not CarbonJames big either Plenty of power and still able to throw her around. I will say I have had 600's pass me on the straights, but it's usually some 5'5" 130 lb f*cker blowing my doors off.
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you see, there's a turn at the end of the straight.
There's the problem. Dean has a tendency to overlook that part so a a bigger faster bike would just launch him further.
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CCS is the only racing org with a "750" class. In CMRA you have to race with the 1ks....which puts you at a power disadvantage. There are still people keeping up with 750s, but you better be able to ride the wheels off your bike.

However, for a TRACKbike not a RACEbike a 750 is quite nice. It just gives you a broader spread of power as compared to a 600 so you don't have to rev the pee-poo put of the bike to stay in the powerband.
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I have no real input hear as I have only ridden 750's in the past 8 years. I personally like the 750, but I'm a fairly big dude...not Maxgs big, but not CarbonJames big either Plenty of power and still able to throw her around. I will say I have had 600's pass me on the straights, but it's usually some 5'5" 130 lb f*cker blowing my doors off.
Thanks for the compliment, but I'm a lot bigger than 5'5" 130#
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...so are we shaping up for a race some time soon?


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636 is garbage!!! ill race u on my 750
Ill be more than happy to race you on my Kawi. But it isnt even a 636....its just a ZX6R thats only 599cc.

And the CMRA does have 750 classes. Just not in the endurance.
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...and it is usually the turns that require most of our skill here too.

I don't think I would have fun on the lawnmower though (maybe after some NOS work on it).


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As a track day bike, it's kind of a wash. You might enjoy the extra wheaties of the 750 so you can muscle past slower bikes on the straights, but the 600 will be more than most mortals can use on most race tracks 'cause, you see, there's a turn at the end of the straight.

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CCS is the only racing org with a "750" class. In CMRA you have to race with the 1ks....which puts you at a power disadvantage. There are still people keeping up with 750s, but you better be able to ride the wheels off your bike.

However, for a TRACKbike not a RACEbike a 750 is quite nice. It just gives you a broader spread of power as compared to a 600 so you don't have to rev the pee-poo put of the bike to stay in the powerband.
wow you need to go read the cmra rule book and get off ccs' nuts.

in the cmra if you
abc and d

A is the 1000 class
B is the 750
c is for 600s
and d is the lightwieght stuff

and for each of those you have superstock and superbike.

SO theres TWO 750 classes
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