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Old 11-10-2008, 02:51 PM   #21
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Old 11-10-2008, 03:36 PM   #22
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Thank you all very much for the feedback! I appreciate the opinions both ways. I just need to get some saddle time and see what I think.

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Old 11-10-2008, 10:38 PM   #23
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Typically, larger motors come on larger bikes. When you are over 6 ft, and over 200 lbs, the smaller, lighter bikes cause pain when you ride them! I personally don't mind them on the race track, because I am constantly moving on them. But for street riding, where you stay in your seat WAY more often than not, then a larger motorcycle is simply necessary.

I purchased an 08 B-King as an all-rounder. All the reviews talk about how large and heavy the bike is, in spite of its power. But when you are my size, here is what it looks like:
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:40 PM   #24
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Typically, larger motors come on larger bikes. When you are over 6 ft, and over 200 lbs, the smaller, lighter bikes cause pain when you ride them! I personally don't mind them on the race track, because I am constantly moving on them. But for street riding, where you stay in your seat WAY more often than not, then a larger motorcycle is simply necessary.

I purchased an 08 B-King as an all-rounder. All the reviews talk about how large and heavy the bike is, in spite of its power. But when you are my size, here is what it looks like:
Frank... get some BOOTS!
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i love the size of the busa, ive rode some smaller bikes and wanted to just pick em up and throw em. then again in 6ft and 200lbs. the cornering on a busa isnt the best and putting a stretch on it definatly doesent help... i would know, but oh snap, you hit that straight and goodbye, the stretch gives me a lot of confidence with the throttle in straights, just knowing itll keep down. plus knowing youve got all that big, bad, black (my bike)) busa under your @ss is just awesome. i get busa withdrawls everytime i sleep, or just blink and cant see it. lol. good luck with your next purchase bud!!
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Old 11-11-2008, 12:36 AM   #28
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I know, right? All I have are my race boots . . . I thought I would look like goober wearing them on a street ride, then I saw this pic! Time for some street boots?
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Busas handle way better then they get credit for. Tire psi is the key factor. From the factory, they recommend 42/42 psi for straight line stability and proper tire cooling but running 42 psi in the front makes the front end feel heavy and slow steering. Dropping the front tire down to 36 psi and leave the rear at 40 psi will make a busa turn in like a different bike...HUGE difference. Really the only problem with a busa's handling is the lack of ground clearance when you are REALLY railing. Lowering the fork tubes about 1/4-3/8" will work wonders for initial turn in and effort also. On a race track, you will likely drag fairings, that and the stock wheelbase is 58.5" so the turn radius/turn in is a little slow...Wouldn't be real good for TIGHT tracks but would be ok for more open tracks....they really love high speed sweepers...They are heavy, planted and stable..... Take a busa around a 150 mph sweeper on the street(ie. not track), then take a 1000 on the same road and you will feel 10x more comfortable on the busa.

The Gen 2 busas handle even better and have much better brakes. Every busa at a MINIMUM need good sintered brake pads installed ASAP.

If you go with a Gen 2 busa, you will not be dissappointed by anything on it except for the goofy looking tail section, but performance wise, its an improvement all around.
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i love the size of the busa, ive rode some smaller bikes and wanted to just pick em up and throw em. then again in 6ft and 200lbs. the cornering on a busa isnt the best and putting a stretch on it definatly doesent help... i would know, but oh snap, you hit that straight and goodbye, the stretch gives me a lot of confidence with the throttle in straights, just knowing itll keep down. plus knowing youve got all that big, bad, black (my bike)) busa under your @ss is just awesome. i get busa withdrawls everytime i sleep, or just blink and cant see it. lol. good luck with your next purchase bud!!
lol - busa withdrawal in your sleep? I think that says it all, thanks.

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How big are ya? Never seen that bike before. I'm 6'2" and 200-205 depending on beer consumption that week.

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Busas handle way better then they get credit for. Tire psi is the key factor. From the factory, they recommend 42/42 psi for straight line stability and proper tire cooling but running 42 psi in the front makes the front end feel heavy and slow steering. Dropping the front tire down to 36 psi and leave the rear at 40 psi will make a busa turn in like a different bike...HUGE difference. Really the only problem with a busa's handling is the lack of ground clearance when you are REALLY railing. Lowering the fork tubes about 1/4-3/8" will work wonders for initial turn in and effort also. On a race track, you will likely drag fairings, that and the stock wheelbase is 58.5" so the turn radius/turn in is a little slow...Wouldn't be real good for TIGHT tracks but would be ok for more open tracks....they really love high speed sweepers...They are heavy, planted and stable..... Take a busa around a 150 mph sweeper on the street(ie. not track), then take a 1000 on the same road and you will feel 10x more comfortable on the busa.

The Gen 2 busas handle even better and have much better brakes. Every busa at a MINIMUM need good sintered brake pads installed ASAP.

If you go with a Gen 2 busa, you will not be dissappointed by anything on it except for the goofy looking tail section, but performance wise, its an improvement all around.
*makes notes to put Alan to work in my garage soon* Thanks for the feedback guys!
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"How big are ya? Never seen that bike before. I'm 6'2" and 200-205 depending on beer consumption that week. "


The bike is a 2008 Suzuki B-King. Naked brother to the busa. Same "new spec" 1340cc motor as the busa, but it does NOT have ram air (the intakes do nothing ), and therefore a smaller airbox, and a longer exhaust pipe that sends the pipes up under the tail.

The only "de-tune" going on is the electronic restrictions in 1st and 2nd gear and the electronic limitations in 5th & 6th gear. Of course, I have already purchased and installed the necessary electronic gear to bypass said restrictions.

Besides, the stock rear sprocket is 2 teeth larger than the busa. Let's just say, "She comes off the line purdy-good."

Me? I'm just a smidge under 6'2" and @ 250 lbs, depending on beer, too!

Anyway, the picture was to illustrate the size of a "large" bike with a large rider on board. It makes me laugh when I read all the reviews of riders complaining about how "big" the B-King was. Could you imagine MY fat on a 600? Yeah, me neither!
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I used to have a zx-11 and loved it. Could ride that thing all day and be comfortable. Awesome steetbike. Makes me feel uncomfortable not knowing what's around a corner so I don't need to haul through turns (and I don't ride the track). Think I might get a 14 one of these days, but it may be a while since no one wants to buy my 1.
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Listen To ZXALAN on the busa EXCEPT for the part of a Brock pipe Get you a TI Force Sumo and You'll be set on a gen 2 and get johnny cheese to tune it and Love it like a 2nd wife end of story............
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Go put a Brock pipe on it, PCIII, tune it and have 180+rwhp. You can drag race it, top end it, wheelie it, take trips on it, ride nice twisties on it, ride 2 up comfortably. They make great low end tq, you will NEVER have to down shift it on the highway, even 2 up. Best off, they still get 30+mpgs. They are a great all around bike. The ONLY thing it wouldn't do well is a track day at a tight track....I would guess it would still hold its own though on a more open, less complex track but I wouldn't take a chance on wadding a premium piece of iron like this.....get a track for crashing on.
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Plus if your taller and bigger it doesn't feel like your grape ape riding a liter bike.
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ain't that the truth... I am 6" 215 pounds. I feel totally at home on a busa.
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I weigh a whole 160lbs and LOVE my 14. Its comfortable, fast as all out, has a 5.5 gallon tank that will last you on average 230miles. Personally i like the looks of bigger bikes. And as for not being able to turn, i call a whole lot of BS. It has EVERYTHING to do with the rider. Also, and I maye be wrong here, but dont the bigger cc engines last longer?
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Plus if your taller and bigger it doesn't feel like your grape ape riding a liter bike.
I love the silver 14s. Nice bike.
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I wanna busa now I guess If your mostly street rider and live in houston thats the bike all those straight line highways you can open her up I love the belt way
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I loved my 2002 Busa on the road. Larger sprung wight means the unsprung has less impact on the overall chassis....this means they are smoother over bumps.

With a 180 rear tire and suspension properly set my Busa loved to turn in, hold a line, and power out of turns madly.

At the track it was heavy when on the brakes, heavy to transition, but fast off corner exits and down the straights. Held it's line well in corners, and didn't balk at mid-corner line changes. I passed quite a few 600's who thought they were turning well.

Two up comfort is not an oxymoron. Wind protection awesome. 100 MPH all day 500 miles at 40 MPG cruising no problem.

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