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Old 11-10-2008, 10:00 AM   #1
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I'm slow

After about 12k miles on a Ninja 250 I switched to a VFR 750. And although it is a pretty mild bike, 5k miles later I find myself "slower" than I was on the 250.

To be exact, I am slower through the corners, I am afraid to lean the bike over too much, and I am still not too sure of the bikes powerband.

What do I do?
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:01 AM   #2
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just punch it......redline it....... jk,
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Sell it and get an R6.
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:17 AM   #6
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You dont have data acquisition on there? You have everything else, lol.

What tires do you have? A good tire goes a long way.
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:17 AM   #7
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:24 AM   #8
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under the original posters name it says "trackdays: 1"

to me it just means to grow a pair and push yourself. It does not matter how many track days you do if you are not willing to push for more. Not being sure of the bikes powerband is, to me at least, a very odd thing. Just go find some empty road and get on it some, see how it pulls, see where the power comes on.

I am using the bt021 tires as well, and have 2k miles on them, and have almost gotten rid of the last line of nubbies on the edges of the tires. I wish I had more corners to ride in...
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I think the isuue is also comming from a Ninja 250. The 250 is more easy to throw because is lighther and more nimble.

You just need to get used to the weight of the VFR and how it handles in the turns, also check your tire pressure and start leaning the bike more in small increments until you feel confortable.
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Old 11-10-2008, 05:47 PM   #12
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let patrick set up your suspension. you will feel more confident.

then do a track day and let one of the guys help. I have ridden since I was 12, and I'm 40 now. during one of this years track days dr. gonzo followed me, then I followed him. he gave me personal track instruction like some (not all) trackday instructors will, and I was faster after 20 minutes with him than I have been my whole life. I gained a LOT of confidence, my form and position improved, and things just sorted themselves out. there are people who will do this for you here, I promise. I can't wait to do a few trackdays next year so I can learn to carry even more speed and be smoother.
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:07 PM   #13
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After about 12k miles on a Ninja 250 I switched to a VFR 750. And although it is a pretty mild bike, 5k miles later I find myself "slower" than I was on the 250.

To be exact, I am slower through the corners, I am afraid to lean the bike over too much, and I am still not too sure of the bikes powerband.

What do I do?

well take it to the track and try to get the hang of the power band what what the bike can do.
as for being slower part: well i ride my r6 alot slower on the street than i do when i take my SV out. for the following reasons.
1: r6 suspension isnt set up for my weight yet, ill have to put the new springs in and get them done.
2: the bike has alot more power and street isn't the place to scrape the peg or drag the knee. ill leave that for the track.

so with that being said.i dont see a major problem here, buying a faster bike don't mean your should be going faster or as fast on the street nor your have too. again i say take it to the track and test the bike there, it build confidence ; also if your a dragging knee around every corner type o guy think about getting another bike zx6,cbr600.. or something
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Hey, it's my old bike! Take it to a track day and just play around and get used to the weight of it. I ride like a grandma and that thing never scared me, the power delivery is very smooth. Once you get used to the extra weight, you'll be fine.
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Old 11-11-2008, 10:09 AM   #15
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i got the same feeling when i rode your bike. it's really low and feels heavy and very nimble
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Old 11-12-2008, 12:28 AM   #17
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i actually found myself slower on the street after my first trackday.
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i got the same feeling when i rode your bike. it's really low and feels heavy and very nimble
i mean this in the best way possible. i was afraid to try anything with the bike. it seemed like it could eat my children. very nice bike.
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After about 12k miles on a Ninja 250 I switched to a VFR 750. And although it is a pretty mild bike, 5k miles later I find myself "slower" than I was on the 250.

To be exact, I am slower through the corners, I am afraid to lean the bike over too much, and I am still not too sure of the bikes powerband.

What do I do?
Ride, ride, ride, then maybe ride some more. Regardless of the bike, all the principles of turning are the same. Look where you want to go, countersteer to get into the turn, smooth application of the throttle, body position.

Lots of good advice in this thread. Get the suspension set up for yourself, then ride sally ride! Track days are a great place to explore the limits of the bike, or you can just get together with friends and go off in the country and learn the bike better.
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