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Old 11-08-2008, 12:53 AM   #41
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when you go to the dealer don't you low ball them? Its all about a good deal. And a good deal is a state of mind, so your good deal may not be their good deal. But good luck on the sale!
thats different tho. the dealer will jack up the price about five grand OVER what the bike is worth. what you think is a good deal from a dealer, youre still getting raped.
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I take back my previous statement, I wouldn't offer you anything for your bike. You do realize that deleting the email would have taken about half a second right? Why get your panties in a wad over something so small? Delete it, move on. Saying your feelings are hurt because someone offered you an amount lower than your asking price when you posted "don't lowball me" is hilarious IMO. As someone else previously stated, you should look into doing a consignment deal.
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wow that was rude.
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I'll give ya 5g's right now. 50 - 100 dolla billz.

Oh , did I just low ball you?

I dont know what a low ball is. People start high cuz they know peeps start low. Then they meet near the middle typically.

How many times does someoen say "NOT A PENNY LESS." Then you show em $500 less, and they take it.
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Dude if you don't want any offers, put up the price and say "Firm, no lower offers considered." That way people will usually not try to negotiate. Why get worked up over an offer? At least you know someone is interested and all that is required on your part is a simple yes or no. I don't understand someone getting all upset over something so menial.
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when buying a bike i always try to give a lowball just to see where it goes. I bought my wifes bike that way. I put an offer in thay I thought was about $500 too low, and he took it.
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Dude if you don't want any offers, put up the price and say "Firm, no lower offers considered." That way people will usually not try to negotiate. Why get worked up over an offer? At least you know someone is interested and all that is required on your part is a simple yes or no. I don't understand someone getting all upset over something so menial.
Oh okay I see so you're saying if I say "Don't low ball me" in different words then people will understand that better and not do it? Yeah I think not, it's pretty clear already to average human being. I think you're more upset than I am!


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when buying a bike i always try to give a lowball just to see where it goes. I bought my wifes we , and he took it.
If they were only 500 low I wouldn't consider it low balling.
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I'm not upset at all. I just think your being a little silly about the whole thing. If anything I'm amused at human nature.

Maybe next time you should define "lowball" so that people will know where you draw the line so that you don't get your feelings hurt again.
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I'm not upset at all. I just think your being a little silly about the whole thing. If anything I'm amused at human nature.

Maybe next time you should define "lowball" so that people will know where you draw the line so that you don't get your feelings hurt again.

That was the whole point of this thread man! I told what happened and then I asked the question, would you consider this low balling.

Some people seemed to catch on to this concept really quick and others just seem to keep dragging out into all kinds of other . Like it depends on what the price of eggs or in China on February 15th. I just asked very simple question, I didn't say I was upset or anything, you guys added all the other stuff.
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I'll jump in with my 0.02.

Is it a lowbal offer? Yes.

Unreasonable? No.

IF KBB trade is $5100, then it's not an offensive offer IMO, it's a starting point of negotiating.

I constantly look for good deals on bikes, play with the bike, then sell it. In general, I have been fortunate to not take a big loss on anything yet. I even make money sometimes. Of course, I exclude tax, license, and general maintenance in my P&L. I currenlty have six bikes and more than likely will be selling one soon because I am ready to try a new one I haven't had yet.

IMO opinion, there is no offer anyone can make to me on a bike that will twist me off. If it's too low, I just say, "Call me back when you can do better." If they don't, no worries.

To give an example, I bought a NEW DRZ250 out the door a while back for around $2450. Heck of a deal as it was a left over unit. I don't remember what retail was on those, but it was MUCH higher. I told the dealer, that I was willing to pay current NADA trade for that year model bike in excellent condition, which was now 2 year models old. He made all the arguments that it was still a new bike, my point was that it wouldn't be the minute I had it out the door. I walked, he called me back and I left happy, and he got rid of a bike that had been on his floor plan too long. Everyone was happy.

If you are emotionally attached to the bike (or anything)you are selling to the point a low offer frustrates you, my opinion is that you lose the negotiating advantage. If you truly don't need to sell it, set your price, relax, and wait. SOMEONE will come along that HAS to have it, and you will get your price. It just may take a little longer.

I looked at the ad and that is a stunning bike. Somebody will pay near your price I imagine, it just may not be today. Or it could be.

Good luck with the sale.
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I didn't say I was upset or anything, you guys added all the other stuff.
Yes you did in the 2 statements below.


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There is something to loose when you people off. In this case if he happens to come up with more money and emails me again I won't be reading his email.
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Low balling me when I've said not to is not humorous and it's not respectful of my wishes.
As I said before, you didn't define "low balling". What you did is ask us to define it for you, to justify your anger. And again, I'll say "What's the big deal?" Accept the offer or don't accept it. It's not like he was calling you names or hitting on your wife.

I'm done now and I'll be sure to never respond to one of your for sale adds with anything less than the stated price so that I don't offend you.
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BTW.......... Don't let a low offer bother you. When I sell items, I ask people not to lowball, but I ALWAYS end up getting offers for 50% of asking price. All I do is say "I'm sorry, but I have $X into it, and I'm afraid I can't go anywhere NEAR that low". They understand usually, and either counter-offer something better, or go away.
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Yes you did in the 2 statements below.

This didn't say I was off it says "you will people off". I have people off before doing this. That's why I'm attuned to it now. One guy came back to me four times with the same price after I told him no. Not to mention my ad says "don't low ball me".

As I said before, you didn't define "low balling". What you did is ask us to define it for you, to justify your anger. And again, I'll say "What's the big deal?" Accept the offer or don't accept it. It's not like he was calling you names or hitting on your wife.

I didn't ask anyone to define it. I clearly stated the price I asked, the price they offered and if you considered that a low ball price. Many people got that easily and a few of you didn't. If on a forum like this one I have to start defining the word "low balling" then I will also have to start defining every other word.

I'm done now and I'll be sure to never respond to one of your for sale adds with anything less than the stated price so that I don't offend you.

You seem to catch on really slow. I have said several times I entertained other offers that were close to my asking price, just not the nearly $2000 under some goofball offered me four times.
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I'll jump in with my 0.02.

Is it a lowbal offer? Yes.

Unreasonable? No.

IF KBB trade is $5100, then it's not an offensive offer IMO, it's a starting point of negotiating.

I constantly look for good deals on bikes, play with the bike, then sell it. In general, I have been fortunate to not take a big loss on anything yet. I even make money sometimes. Of course, I exclude tax, license, and general maintenance in my P&L. I currenlty have six bikes and more than likely will be selling one soon because I am ready to try a new one I haven't had yet.

IMO opinion, there is no offer anyone can make to me on a bike that will twist me off. If it's too low, I just say, "Call me back when you can do better." If they don't, no worries.

To give an example, I bought a NEW DRZ250 out the door a while back for around $2450. Heck of a deal as it was a left over unit. I don't remember what retail was on those, but it was MUCH higher. I told the dealer, that I was willing to pay current NADA trade for that year model bike in excellent condition, which was now 2 year models old. He made all the arguments that it was still a new bike, my point was that it wouldn't be the minute I had it out the door. I walked, he called me back and I left happy, and he got rid of a bike that had been on his floor plan too long. Everyone was happy.

If you are emotionally attached to the bike (or anything)you are selling to the point a low offer frustrates you, my opinion is that you lose the negotiating advantage. If you truly don't need to sell it, set your price, relax, and wait. SOMEONE will come along that HAS to have it, and you will get your price. It just may take a little longer.

I looked at the ad and that is a stunning bike. Somebody will pay near your price I imagine, it just may not be today. Or it could be.

Good luck with the sale.
Now Tojo you are actually thinking here! The only difference here is I asked not to low ball. $5100 may be a starting point to negotiate for someone who hasn't stated this, but when you offer $2000 under the asking price of a $7000 vehicle you have just low balled the offer. I simply asked people not to do it.

I think I will get very near the asking price also even if I have to wait until next spring. I really don't care. I'm going to ride it a little in the mean time. I'd just rather not handle 1000 goofball emails in the mean time if it's not unnecessary, and it's not if people would just wise up.
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