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Old 10-28-2008, 03:26 PM   #1
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My first drop

This post is mostly for me to sort out what happened and hopefully learn from it. Apologies for the length and I am sure these are all very noob questions.

While practicing a slow u-turn in a parking lot I managed to drop my bike (a used 2008 Suzuki GSX650F with less than 800 miles).

Before I get asked, a second round of MSF is on the to-do list but I need two consecutive work-free days in order to do it and that doesn’t look promising until December unless someone knows of a MSF night school. So I have been practicing in parking lots until I can take it the course.

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I am still not sure which exact event caused the drop or when certain events happened as it was all very fast. But here is what I recall and my thoughts in brackets.

* I started the turn just inside one line, I think I turned bars a bit too sharp and came to a dead stop which in turn caused me to lose balance. [No, I don’t know why I didn’t just give power, straighten up and try again but I didn’t. I remember looking down at the front wheel just as it was going down so maybe I was already doing that and it was part of the problem or maybe it was just instinct as the bike started to tip to look where I would be falling?]

* As the bike starts to go down I must have let go with my left hand because I recall trying to hold it up by my right hand. The wheel turns all the way to the left while the engine RPMs go way up as, in a vain attempt to hold the bike up, I inadvertently twist the throttle. I don’t recall the rear wheel spinning so I assume it was in neutral. [Perhaps I shifted into neutral instead of 1 when I started the turn but I don’t recall seeing the neutral indicator beforehand?]

* I don’t really recall lifting the bike back up but the engine was still running as I started to lift it but as I got it vertical the engine dies and the FI light is on. Turn the key all the way off and back on and it fired right up, whew!

Aftermath
Bike damage:
* The biggest damage was that I snapped the end off of the clutch handle –(it’s a first year bike so that was expensive to replace as only OEM parts are available)
* Added some scratches to the engine cover (previous owner had already had some)
* Small scratch on the back of the mirror

Amazingly, there no damage to any of the plastics not even a scratch, the end of the handlebar was not even scratched. I am working on the assumption that the clutch handle hit first along with the engine cover and that the bike simply went straight down and back up which is why the plastics didn’t get scrapped.

Self damage:
* Bruised ego
* Strained right lower back, right triceps and right shoulder from trying (and failing) to keep the bike from falling and then picking it up with bad form

All comments welcome but I have these questions about the bike:
Did the engine die because the RPMs go too high (does this bike even do that) or because it was laid down on its side?
What is the delay for the engine to stop when it goes down?
Do I need to worry that I did any drive train damage in this incident?
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Old 10-28-2008, 03:29 PM   #2
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It happens. It won't be the last time, either. I'm sorry it happened on such a new and pretty bike, though. Oh well. I've dropped mine lots and it's still in good shape. You probably did no real damage.
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Old 10-28-2008, 03:31 PM   #3
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next time, right when it hits the ground turn the bike off
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I think you're fine, I would say the FI light came on b/c it wasn't getting any fuel when she was on her side
Practice makes perfect, but you better be prepared to drop her again if you are trying stuff you aren't 100% comfortable with.....BTW I don't think a 2nd MSF would necessarily solve this problem as much as practice but that puts you back in the risky moves category
Bottom line is you are able to do the maneuver but you didn't quite make it this time around, it's bound to happen and either you learn to throttle out or just let the bike fall next time so you don't hurt yourself
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I think you're fine, I would say the FI light came on b/c it wasn't getting any fuel when she was on her side
Practice makes perfect, but you better be prepared to drop her again if you are trying stuff you aren't 100% comfortable with.....BTW I don't think a 2nd MSF would necessarily solve this problem as much as practice but that puts you back in the risky moves category
Bottom line is you are able to do the maneuver but you didn't quite make it this time around, it's bound to happen and either you learn to throttle out or just let the bike fall next time so you don't hurt yourself
i agree.....
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I'm confused, what does this have to do with getting your first convertible?
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I'm confused, what does this have to do with getting your first convertible?
+1 wth?
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keep your head up and look thru the turn to where you wanna go.

3 easy keys to slow tight turns: head turn, clutch control, weight shift.


also stay away from the ft brake, when the handlebars are turned, and you apply ft brake, it tends to catch and make the bike fall in faster.
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do u have frame sliders? and and bar end sliders?
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Thanks for the thoughts. Only one company has framesliders specific to this model and they want a LOT for them (>$250).

I am toying with just taking all the plastics and putting generic sliders on it for a while. I figure I don't really need the fairing until I start riding freeway speeds regularly and the plastics are probably the most expensive things to be damaged while I am "coming up to speed" so to speak.
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