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Old 10-27-2008, 11:11 AM   #1
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MSRH-Line through the Bus Stop

I'm curious about the line the racers use through the bus stop shown on this chart as turns 9 and 10. You can see that when I turn the bike to the right going into 9, I don't attempt to get on the right hand side curb.... the blue line. Instead, I'm right on the curbing for turn 10.

Is this similar to your line, or are you sacrificing speed in the bus stop and squaring off turn 9 in order to start the run onto the back straight earlier?

BTW, my track map of the outside edge of the track is a little off.... I'm not jumping the curbing!!

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Old 10-27-2008, 11:29 AM   #2
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according to the map, maybe you turn in a little early?
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:31 AM   #3
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kinda hard to tell as the gps data isnt really spot on...
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:35 AM   #4
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kinda hard to tell as the gps data isnt really spot on...


Besides, there is no one line.
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from the looks of it you went off roading twice in that turn
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:50 AM   #6
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So, a couple of things. When I traced the outside line of the track, I made some errors.... it's harder than you think. That's why it is appearing that I jump he curb on turn 10.

Secondly, in terms of accuracy, the GPS signal is recorded 4 times a second and the accelerometer data provides the position of the bike an additional 10 times per second. So it's pretty good.

My question still holds.... I'm curious how Gonzo, Irish, Mr. Whoopie, Diggler, Larry and the other fast guys (1:42 or less) run through the bus stop. Do they attempt to square off the turn or are they riding a similar line to what I'm showing.
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Hey Kurt do you have a link to info on the data logger you use? I am interested in reading up on it more, it looks pretty sweet!
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Check this thread.... http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=68297
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Old 10-27-2008, 12:01 PM   #9
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Irish showed me his line through there. And I think you know it, because we talked about yours compared to mine/his.

Outside just before turn in at 9, then dive to the inside of 9, then inside, on the curb in 10. Then straighten it up, ASAP, and WOT. (600 of course)

^^^and I dont know all the lingo so I hope that made sense.

I think you are using like a mid track entry going into 9. Which you are fast there.

All I know is that if I am not on the inside, on 10, I dont like they way the pavement feels in the middle. And I wrecked on that very turn once.

OK, now the fast guys can talk.
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that is the line Irish showed me. The pink one. Except a little tighter, mid turn , on 10 I think.

Ok, Ill shut up now.
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Old 10-27-2008, 12:13 PM   #12
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So I'd need to slow down a bit so I can make turn 9 tighter.
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Old 10-27-2008, 12:41 PM   #13
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For me during a race I won't go all the way to the outside and actually be mid track before turning into turn 9 as this is good place to get stuffed

Also giving up entry speed here makes for a better drive and gettin on gas earlier exiting 10.

Pink aint quite the line I take but we can go around the next time your there to see if you like it.
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forgot to add at least for me I don't roll on throttle too hard in the beginning of turn 10 cuz me rear likes to step out quite a bit there if I over do it and high sides aren't me favorite these days lol. Ironic turn 10 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) is the same way which me found out the hard way
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IMO if you go wide in 9 to get a better line up for the exit, you will be faster, but you stand the chance of being stuffed. It all depends on if your riding defense or offense. I have to ride offense on every corner to make up for my lost time on the straights. So I go wide and just make sure to brake llllaaatttteeee so no one can get inside. But then the just pass me on the back straight, then I pass them in the diamonds edge, then they pass me on the front straight and so on and so on.

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and the exit to this corner is where I highsided also, yes the end likes to step out here.
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over analyzing.... find what works best....for you. For me, I'm done with trying to become "fast". I just enjoy the track, trying harder at becoming smooth, and keeping the rubber side down. I'll never race so shaving off 1 or 2 seconds matters none to me. And by observing all the hobbies you've gotten your hands into in your lifetime, motorcycles will be on the back burner in the next 2 years. just messing with ya curt
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on a side note, u should let me stick that thing on my scooter for a session.
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im too slow, i just go whereever!lol
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over analyzing.... find what works best....for you. For me, I'm done with trying to become "fast". I just enjoy the track, trying harder at becoming smooth, and keeping the rubber side down. I'll never race so shaving off 1 or 2 seconds matters none to me. And by observing all the hobbies you've gotten your hands into in your lifetime, motorcycles will be on the back burner in the next 2 years. just messing with ya curt
And there is Danny, talking like an old, fat, married man. "I'm done trying to become fast". Ba ha ha ha.
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