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Old 10-27-2008, 05:19 AM   #21
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:28 AM   #22
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I'm thinking out of the box right now, unless y'all tell me that isn't reasonable.
the best out of the box purpose built motard in my opinion is the Aprilia 550 - to this day i miss mine. that thing is hands down THE BEST motard i have ever ridden. 260 lbs & 76 hp. the thing makes power thru the entire RPM range. never goes flat. pulls hard all the way til u hit the rev limiter it is the fastest, has incredible brakes and handles as good as a 250 GP bike. it blows the competition away. that thing really shined when i took it to Pikes Peak. i think it shocked alot of people that year. must be why a dozen or so people showed up racing them at this years event.

the only downfall to the Aprilia is the reliability issue. i hand grenaded the OEM motor in mine, but Aprilia USA was kind enough to give me a free replacement Squanto bought my bike after they put the new motor in and he hasnt had an issue yet. if or when Aprilia gets their problem under control, i will buy me another one. because to this day, i havent ridden a more impressive motard.... and ive rididn a load !

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Old 10-27-2008, 07:21 AM   #23
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Is Larry's Aprilia the 550?
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:28 AM   #24
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Is Larry's Aprilia the 550?
Larry has a 450
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:39 AM   #25
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So I see the KTM SUPERMOTO 950 is weighing in at 421 pounds. Am I missing something here, or is that bike actually heavier than my gixxer?? Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of a motard?
Dood, just get a b-king
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:40 AM   #26
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The information in this thread on the Aprilia 550 looks a little ominous.

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/s...d.php?t=118816
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Dood, just get a b-king
I've ridden a b-king. it's a . and it's ugly to boot. I'm amazed they sell any of them.
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I've ridden a b-king. it's a . and it's ugly to boot. I'm amazed they sell any of them.
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The information in this thread on the Aprilia 550 looks a little ominous.

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/s...d.php?t=118816
it is what it is.....
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:48 AM   #30
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yeah,i think larry told us once he blew the engine up on one of those 550s within minutes.but not everyone rides nearly as hard as he does .
tryout a superduke,now thats a bike you can ride just about anywhere.
435 lbs that feel like 200 pounds,out runs a hypermotard with a rider 100lbs heavier (on superduke),out runs 600 on corners at the track(i was out run by one) and makes a of a canyon carver.
put it to you this way,if i had to sell all of my bike and keep just one that would be the one i keep.........
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:43 AM   #31
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435 lbs seems really heavy. Dry weight of my gixxer is supposed to be 379.
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these folks dont even begin to understand what makes a motard
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:46 AM   #33
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yeah,i think larry told us once he blew the engine up on one of those 550s within minutes.but not everyone rides nearly as hard as he does .
tryout a superduke,now thats a bike you can ride just about anywhere.
435 lbs that feel like 200 pounds,out runs a hypermotard with a rider 100lbs heavier (on superduke),out runs 600 on corners at the track
(i was out run by one) and makes a of a canyon carver.
put it to you this way,if i had to sell all of my bike and keep just one that would be the one i keep.........
complete bullshit. more blind leading the blind.
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Old 10-27-2008, 10:14 AM   #34
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Old 10-27-2008, 10:15 AM   #35
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A big "motard" like any of the current crop of bikes from the Super Duke to the Hypermotard are really just standard bikes with "motard inspired styling".

They're too heavy to do what you want to do.

IMO, you're going to have to live to learn with 50-70 hp max reliable in order to ride something that's light enough to be considered a real motard.
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Jody & Patrick, what I liked about the Aprilia was the incredible agility. I can't get that out of a bike that weighs more than my gixxer. Larry's 450 was great, it just needs..... MORE POWER. He said something about 74 hp on his bike, which the same HP they suggesting comes out of a stock motor 550. Probably modded the out of his bike.

That was more fun than I have had in a long time. I had no idea they were running almost $9K, however.
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Remind me the next time you see me - You're more than welcome to take the 550 out for a 'trial run' . Yes they are expensive for the ktm's and the Aprilias, etc, but you are getting a race bike right out of the box. Also something to consider, is that you will mainly be riding at MSR-H, which has some very long straights for a motard. You could always gear it taller, but you would lose a lot of that torque that it really needs

And don't even look at the superdukes or hypermotards. As Patrick said - they're not what youre looking for.
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:48 AM   #38
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I rode Larry's bike in Angleton a while back. Big fun, but I was surprised at how much more muscle it took to make it change direction compared to my KTM (or any motard single I've riden); comparitively speaking, it steered like a truck. Now before someone gets all wound over this statement, be advised that I am making a fair comparision between similar bikes -- I am not bashing the bike at all. What it gave up in nimbleness it took back in stability. It's got a very electric feeling motor, too.

Bike for bike, you can't go wrong with either a KTM or a Aprilla. Out of the box, the Aprilla is at an advantage on a bigger track over the singles. Out of the box, the KTMs are at an advantage over many of the dirt bike derived motards because of a 6-speed gearbox.
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these folks dont even begin to understand what makes a motard
check it out Jody,
from the factory racer to the hand built "assembly" line ,
throw in some magnesium, billet alloy, titanium and a sprinkle of Italian craftsmanship

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