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View Poll Results: GP Shift pattern
Dont need it 63 55.75%
I have it and hate it 0 0%
I have it and LOVE it! Its a must! 50 44.25%
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Old 11-28-2008, 05:22 PM   #81
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the shifter position is quite different and takes getting used to also!
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Old 11-28-2008, 05:30 PM   #83
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no i haven had that problem...lol lucky fr me i bought a lil mini bke nd it had gp shift so I was somewhat familiar with it. Just at a different angle when trying to upshift
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:55 AM   #84
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when I was endurance racing I put my street bike GP just because most of the team liked gp and it helped me remember. I don't care straight or GP just hate to mix the two.
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You would probably lose that bet. The only reason I use the clutch is for down shifting (as do so many other racers, pro and amateur) and I would use the clutch up shifting too if I didn't have a quick shifter.

I'd bet that you wouldn't lose a hundredth of a second using the clutch all the way around the track for the whole lap, let alone on each up or down shift.

Unless you are racing bar to bar with someone on the last straight, not using the clutch is not going to yield any measurable result. More times than not, races are won/ lost coming in to, coming out of, or with more in corner speed, not with shifting.

Besides, to take a chance at a poor engagement without using the clutch and possibly breaking something vital is pretty silly, especially if you're only doing a track day or practicing
so how long does shifting take using the clutch maybe 0.4 second how much does the bike slow in those 0.4 sec maybe 3mph if you are doing 150 you are back up to speed in about another 0.3 sec so you have spent about 0.7 sec at an avg of ~148.5.

this would mean you are giving up about 2 feet per shift on up shifting. on down shifting you are slowing anyway so that is a moot point. I personally up shift without a clutch while racing but when I do up shift using the clutch I don't think I have it fully disengaged for 0.4 sec.
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