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Old 10-24-2008, 10:05 AM   #1
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1. Nicky Hayden USA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 45.777 sec
2. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team (B) 1min 45.864 sec
3. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team (M) 1min 45.959 sec
4. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team (B) 1min 46.070 sec
5. Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 46.260 sec
6. Andrea Dovizioso ITA JiR Team Scot MotoGP (M) 1min 46.522 sec
7. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP (M) 1min 46.807 sec
8. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alice Team (B) 1min 47.055 sec
9. Colin Edwards USA Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 47.314 sec
10. Shinya Nakano JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 47.483 sec
11. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 47.620 sec
12. Alex de Angelis RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 48.015 sec
13. Marco Melandri ITA Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 48.437 sec
14. John Hopkins USA Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 48.469 sec
15. Anthony West AUS Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 48.504 sec
16. James Toseland GBR Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 48.771 sec
17. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 49.092 sec
18. Toni Elias SPA Alice Team (B) 1min 51.871 sec

2007 Valencian GP - 4/11/2007:
Pole position: Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda (M) 1min 31.517sec
Fastest lap: Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda (M) 1min 32.748sec

Go Nicky
the Doctors nicely placed
must be just damp rather than wet with west so far down
Toseland really needs to up his game
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Yep. Toseland has had some trouble the past few rounds. Michelin seems to have figured something out. Too little too late.
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Pedrosa up front in the rain? I am a little surprised.
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Yep. Toseland has had some trouble the past few rounds. Michelin seems to have figured something out. Too little too late.
I make you right I don't think it's the tyre
he's been there many times before so I have to be honest and say I was expecting much better of him here.
still only fp2, i hope we see some improvement
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Yes he seems to have lost something. You can see it in his demeanor. Not the smiling jack he was at the beginning of the season. How easy it is to forget he IS a GP rookie, and I know he should be beyond that WSBK champion and all, but maybe the length of and pressure of the season has just gotten to him. Also, he is signed up for next season, so they could be concentrating more on getting a head start on that. He should step it up in qualifying. I guess that will be the true test.

BTW. Did you see there is the possibility of NO QUALIFYING TYRES next season??
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I heard about the tire rule during the last race and should make things a bit interesting. What I am impressed with is the dough that Ducati is going to drop next year. Saying they will basically run 5 factory bikes next year...
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I for one am not to happy about the new tire rule. Yea, the racing MIGHT be a little closer.......but tire competition was half the battle.

Dark day for the industry when the premier class of racing drops to one brand. Michelen has just had a bad year........doesn't mean they can't rebound.

Anywho......this should be a good round. I'm crossing my fingers for a Laguna repeat with Pedrosa in the mix aswell.
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I for one am not to happy about the new tire rule. Yea, the racing MIGHT be a little closer.......but tire competition was half the battle.

Dark day for the industry when the premier class of racing drops to one brand. Michelen has just had a bad year........doesn't mean they can't rebound.

Anywho......this should be a good round. I'm crossing my fingers for a Laguna repeat with Pedrosa in the mix aswell.
I agree TOTALLY!
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Michelin has had a bad 2 years though. Rossi left after the 07 season because they weren't competitive. I am not liking what is coming down about the single tire company FOR SURE. And I am trying to figure out why there would be no qualifyers. Also a 20 tyre limit per round. Seems like not enough tyres for the weekend.
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Set your calendars for next year!!

2009 FIM MotoGP World Championship calendar (provisional):
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April 12th* - Qatar - Losail
April 26th - Japan - Motegi
May 3rd - Spain - Jerez
May 17th - France - Le Mans
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June 14th - Catalunya - Catalunya
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August 16th - Czech Republic - Brno
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Well, qualifying was interesting to say the least! I love the way Nicky is riding too! I think he's found some new confidence in knowing that he has a job next year.

Rossi was caught up in traffic for his final flyer, but Valencia isn't his best friend anyway. Stoner didn't even really show up until the end of the session...

Should be a cracka!
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Well, qualifying was interesting to say the least! I love the way Nicky is riding too! I think he's found some new confidence in knowing that he has a job next year.

Rossi was caught up in traffic for his final flyer, but Valencia isn't his best friend anyway. Stoner didn't even really show up until the end of the session...

Should be a cracka!
can you post up the grid please Tom
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1 1 Casey STONER AUS Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1'31.502 306.992
2 2 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 1'31.555 308.043 0.053
3 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Repsol Honda Team Honda 1'31.703 304.826 0.201
4 5 Colin EDWARDS USA Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha 1'32.212 301.339 0.710
5 52 James TOSELAND GBR Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha 1'32.518 302.097 1.016
6 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 1'32.572 293.877 1.070
7 48 Jorge LORENZO SPA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 1'32.594 304.225 1.092
8 65 Loris CAPIROSSI ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1'32.614 299.583 1.112
9 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA JiR Team Scot MotoGP Honda 1'32.734 298.837 1.232
10 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 1'32.962 303.115 1.460
11 24 Toni ELIAS SPA Alice Team Ducati 1'32.983 308.747 1.481
12 7 Chris VERMEULEN AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1'33.017 294.920 1.515
13 50 Sylvain GUINTOLI FRA Alice Team Ducati 1'33.352 307.692 1.850
14 21 John HOPKINS USA Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki 1'33.681 298.672 2.179
15 56 Shinya NAKANO JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1'33.767 299.667 2.265
16 15 Alex DE ANGELIS RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1'33.848 298.177 2.346
17 13 Anthony WEST AUS Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki 1'33.879 299.916 2.377
18 33 Marco MELANDRI ITA Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1'34.174 306.643 2.672


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Michelin has had a bad 2 years though. Rossi left after the 07 season because they weren't competitive. I am not liking what is coming down about the single tire company FOR SURE. And I am trying to figure out why there would be no qualifyers. Also a 20 tyre limit per round. Seems like not enough tyres for the weekend.
I'm 100% for the single tyre formula,
I can't see it's hurt WSBK or WSS.
British superbikes(BSB) and British Supersport (BSS) have been thrilling in their first year of a single tyre supply.
Tyre development may be slowed but I don't need to see lap records being broken the whole time to enjoy the spectacle.
I'm undecided about the allocation quantity, guess we'll have to wait and see on that one.
Qualifiers going, if that is the case I'm not so happy about
Lot of talk of reducing the cost of competing, IMO keeping the qualifiers and dumping the electronics would make far more sense.
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1 1 Casey STONER AUS Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1'31.502 306.992
2 2 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 1'31.555 308.043 0.053
3 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Repsol Honda Team Honda 1'31.703 304.826 0.201
4 5 Colin EDWARDS USA Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha 1'32.212 301.339 0.710
5 52 James TOSELAND GBR Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha 1'32.518 302.097 1.016
6 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 1'32.572 293.877 1.070
7 48 Jorge LORENZO SPA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 1'32.594 304.225 1.092
8 65 Loris CAPIROSSI ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1'32.614 299.583 1.112
9 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA JiR Team Scot MotoGP Honda 1'32.734 298.837 1.232
10 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 1'32.962 303.115 1.460
11 24 Toni ELIAS SPA Alice Team Ducati 1'32.983 308.747 1.481
12 7 Chris VERMEULEN AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1'33.017 294.920 1.515
13 50 Sylvain GUINTOLI FRA Alice Team Ducati 1'33.352 307.692 1.850
14 21 John HOPKINS USA Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki 1'33.681 298.672 2.179
15 56 Shinya NAKANO JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1'33.767 299.667 2.265
16 15 Alex DE ANGELIS RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1'33.848 298.177 2.346
17 13 Anthony WEST AUS Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki 1'33.879 299.916 2.377
18 33 Marco MELANDRI ITA Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1'34.174 306.643 2.672


thanks Tom,
great to see JT up in 5th
now he really needs a good result to take into the off season
At any other circuit I'd still fancy Rossi to come through but Valencia
Stoner's got this one, hope Nicky stuffs Pedrossa
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thanks Tom,
great to see JT up in 5th
now he really needs a good result to take into the off season
At any other circuit I'd still fancy Rossi to come through but Valencia
Stoner's got this one, hope Nicky stuffs Pedrossa
King James had a really tough time, and I think he'll fall behind in the race. He only came along when he got a decent lap on the qualifiers- aside from that, he was a back marker unfortunately. I'd love to see him and Colin back up at the top tomorrow!

Qualifying was strange... it started to rain on parts of the track when the riders were getting their race tires sorted, and then they all started coming in (except Nicky, who was consistently bringing lap times down...). Once they all came in and got intermediates/ full rains, it stopped raining, so those that went out came in again and by then it was time for qualifiers!

Given Nicky's pace on race tires, he stands a great chance at a podium here. Michelin does well at Valencia anyway, so I think it's certainly doable!

Vale will show his dominance again methinks, and Stoner will start strong and get sucked up by lap 10...
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King James had a really tough time, and I think he'll fall behind in the race. He only came along when he got a decent lap on the qualifiers- aside from that, he was a back marker unfortunately. I'd love to see him and Colin back up at the top tomorrow!

Qualifying was strange... it started to rain on parts of the track when the riders were getting their race tires sorted, and then they all started coming in (except Nicky, who was consistently bringing lap times down...). Once they all came in and got intermediates/ full rains, it stopped raining, so those that went out came in again and by then it was time for qualifiers!

Given Nicky's pace on race tires, he stands a great chance at a podium here. Michelin does well at Valencia anyway, so I think it's certainly doable!

Vale will show his dominance again methinks, and Stoner will start strong and get sucked up by lap 10...
that's a brave prediction given his track record at Valencia in recent years
I hope you're proved right ,
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that's a brave prediction given his track record at Valencia in recent years
I hope you're proved right ,
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Yeah, but he has a way of doing that! Just when he's counted out, he shows up in the 1 spot.

I think this race is one that Hayden or Pedrosa is able to win however.
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Yeah, but he has a way of doing that! Just when he's counted out, he shows up in the 1 spot.

I think this race is one that Hayden or Pedrosa is able to win however.
I hear you but I wouldn't count Lorenzo out either
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I hear you but I wouldn't count Lorenzo out either
Being his home GP, I'm somewhat with you; however, like Toseland, he really struggled during the first part of qualifying on race tires in the dry. He only only got in the top 10 with qualifiers.

It's also Pedrosa's "home" GP too.

It's a toss up, but I think the Repsol boys with Rossi in some order will probably cover the rostrum. We'll see, should be a good 'un!
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