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Old 11-30-2005, 08:41 PM   #1
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Looks good!
The theory being that it keeps the forks in alignment during cornering loads by mitigating axle flex.
Might see some benefit on some of the cruiser bikes because of the smaller diameter front axles typically on these bikes.
If you've got almost any late model sportbike it will have a beefy enough axle to not warrant using one.

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Old 12-01-2005, 07:37 AM   #4
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Looks good!
The theory being that it keeps the forks in alignment during cornering loads by mitigating axle flex.
Might see some benefit on some of the cruiser bikes because of the smaller diameter front axles typically on these bikes.
If you've got almost any late model sportbike it will have a beefy enough axle to not warrant using one.

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not it at all according to superbrace. they were designed for the sportbike industry, in fact, the rare thing is to see a HD that WILL benefit from it. Most HD riders don't go high enough speeds to worry and also, most HD guys don't ride their bike and corner like I do.
go to their web and see the simulation.
its made to stop the FORK flex, the flex is longitudinal in the forks and causes death wobble etc. (although I can see where it would also help with the fork alignment under loads as in cornering. , now I can't wait to go and dive into a corner and see if it sits differently now.
superbrace is the only company on the market with a 2 piece design, stronger.
I got it from a group buy on the XL list for 115.
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Superbrace has been around for years. Back in the late 70's early 80's there was some benefit to fitting a brace in a sportbike because of smallish fork tube sizes and axles.
I checked out their website and their simulation. They do show the axle flexing, although in almost 30 years of messing with bikes I've never seen a cast aluminum fork leg lower "flex".
Wobbles are caused by frequency harmonics, or in laymans terms vibration, yes some of it is attributable to fork flexing but not as much as you would think.
Most fork flex is actually fore and aft, typically in a straight line under heavy braking. The flex typically occurs close to the bottom of the triple tree.
I'm don't really see where a "brace" mounted on top of the fender will really impact that.

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don't believe the hype, it may be helpful on old skool HD's, but they are pretty useless on modern sportbikes.......
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I would think that, combined with a steering dampener and you would definitely notice some difference. It looks nice

When i get up to 115 mph I sometimes find it starting to shake and go wobbly. I just figured my front tire was out of balance.
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When i get up to 115 mph I sometimes find it starting to shake and go wobbly. I just figured my front tire was out of balance.
thats HD, sportbikes easily go 150+ w/ very little fan-fair
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Well, i bet scootertrash and I get up to triple digits more often the most HD riders.
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Well, i bet scootertrash and I get up to triple digits more often the most HD riders.
Depends on the HD :icon_bigg
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Depends on the HD :icon_bigg
Oh i forgot to mention TxVrod. He goes fast too.

I was just saying that not everyone that owns a HD goes past 100 mph.

I probably get going past 100 at least 3 times a month. Just to clear out the ol' scoot, and feel the speed.

On some roads it stays smooth as glass up to 120
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It's just so easy to do and not even know it. That's my problem. As a rule, I don't consciously speed.
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Superbrace has been around for years. Back in the late 70's early 80's there was some benefit to fitting a brace in a sportbike because of smallish fork tube sizes and axles.
I checked out their website and their simulation. They do show the axle flexing, although in almost 30 years of messing with bikes I've never seen a cast aluminum fork leg lower "flex".
Wobbles are caused by frequency harmonics, or in laymans terms vibration, yes some of it is attributable to fork flexing but not as much as you would think.
Most fork flex is actually fore and aft, typically in a straight line under heavy braking. The flex typically occurs close to the bottom of the triple tree.
I'm don't really see where a "brace" mounted on top of the fender will really impact that.

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would a stabilizer/ dampener do more to stop the death wobble? I was planning on installing one of those as well, may not be needed though. I'm not road racing or anything.
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What kind of a wobble and at what speeds are you experiencing it at?


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would a stabilizer/ dampener do more to stop the death wobble? I was planning on installing one of those as well, may not be needed though. I'm not road racing or anything.
Take that windshield off mang!
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I have a brace on my V-max. Don't know if it helps but it surely doesn't hurt.
Beefier than the flimsy stock bit and looks the biz too!
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death wobble at 120+ mph :laughing6
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Cast aluminum wheels or spoked?
What year HD?
How many miles on it?
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cast aluminum.
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170# soaking wet, mind you LOL
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