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Old 10-21-2008, 01:45 PM   #1
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I have a ZZR600, which doesn't have a slipper clutch. This morning i was coming to a 90 turn, downshifted a couple of gears, let go of the clutch, and my bounced around a lot, more than usual. Could cold tires have something to do with it, or should I just learn how to ride. Any pointers?
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did you by chance lock up the rear tire when you downshifted? i have done this before and the tail will get squirly on ya. I would say try to be a bit smoother ... dont practice on the streets got to en empty parking lot or a parade lap on a track with no one behind you
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did you by chance lock up the rear tire when you downshifted? i have done this before and the tail will get squirly on ya. I would say try to be a bit smoother ... dont practice on the streets got to en empty parking lot or a parade lap on a track with no one behind you
I dont think that is the piont of a parade lap at all. could cause someone else to wreck or he could wreck his self and no more parade laps for anyone.
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I have a ZZR600, which doesn't have a slipper clutch. This morning i was coming to a 90 turn, downshifted a couple of gears, let go of the clutch, and my bounced around a lot, more than usual. Could cold tires have something to do with it, or should I just learn how to ride. Any pointers?
or it could be the loose nut between the seat and handlebars
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it sounds to me, like you are letting off the clutch to quickly. but i dont think the temp of your tires would make u bounce around (maybe slide around)... at least my bike now, or my 03' never had that issue... but i know that putting it into a much lower gear with the RPM's to high can make the bike a little unhappy, so try letting go of the clutch slower.
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Downshifted too many gears, too abrupt on the clutch, and cold tires all contribute to it. Try dropping a gear too far on a shaft driven bike. They have no mercy for the stupid!
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Try downshifting through each gear. Don't skip a gear, or two, or more coming into a corner!!

Some people believe since our transmissions are sequential, they like to be loaded and unloaded in order. Not 6, 5, 2, 1. More like 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, as you're coming to a stop, or slowing down for a corner.

Let the clutch out with more ease, too! Like noted above.
REALLY? ummmmm u go from 6 to 4 ALOT when doing lots of turning... ive been doing it wrong?

Fuking Ed! Stupid MSF! j/k, but am i really doing it wrong?
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I dont think that is the piont of a parade lap at all. could cause someone else to wreck or he could wreck his self and no more parade laps for anyone.
I said with no one behind you

no more parade laps Please there was a collision between a 600'cc bike with and instructor on it and a 50cc bike at MSRH a few weeks ago sh*t happends ... now why they ended up going down is anyones guess that big bike should have known better

people will continue to wreck on parade laps for less serious things
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REALLY? ummmmm u go from 6 to 4 ALOT when doing lots of turning... ive been doing it wrong?

Fuking Ed! Stupid MSF! j/k, but am i really doing it wrong?
T there are a conundrum of things that you are doing wrong when you ride ... to many to list really
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Try downshifting through each gear. Don't skip a gear, or two, or more coming into a corner!!

Some people believe since our transmissions are sequential, they like to be loaded and unloaded in order. Not 6, 5, 2, 1. More like 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, as you're coming to a stop, or slowing down for a corner.

Let the clutch out with more ease, too! Like noted above.
? how do you skip gears? you can't go from 6-4 like in a car, you have to let up at 5 then press down to get into 4
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It was hoping due to letting out on the clutch too fast. It can happen with a slipper clutch also, it just makes it less noticable.
What I do is brake in the higher gear. Once I slow a bit, I down shift and release the clutch for each gear as I go through it, slowly. If your speed is lower and your revs are lower, say around 3,000 RPM you won't feel it as much.
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Yes, for example, people are cruising in 6th, approach a stop light so they pull in the clutch lever and just click down (in most people's case) THROUGH the gears from 6-4, or 6-2, or whatever, before letting the clutch lever go!! DUH!!! That was my point, it's a SEQUENTIAL transmission. They skip gears.
well you have to let of press. then go down again, so your not skipping gears, your just not lettting the clutch out in between gears. that doesn't mean they're skipping.

and that tech. has worked fine for me.
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