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Old 10-18-2008, 01:19 PM   #1
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need some opinions please!!!

as many of u have probably experienced i have become hooked on track days. My question is i am running continental conti sport attacks currently and i am not 100% confident these are tires i should keep on my bike if i am going to get serious about track days. so should i keep these on for now and wear them out then invest in some new ones or should i go ahead and put a new set of rubbers on the bike and if so what do you guys recommend. I am not hurting financially so if you guys recommend just putting some new tires on just let me know and i am not concerned about getting mileage out of the tires either. any help appreciated. thanx.

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Old 10-18-2008, 01:26 PM   #2
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try bt014 bridgestones, I like metzelers m1, but some time ago the m3 came out. of course, if you want something better you need track rubber, wich is expeeensive, and then you need to get better suspension or your frame will twist itself in kknots
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i would use the tires you have til they are dead, no need to waste them. Then pick up a set of bt003's and youll be happy
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well if it's just a track bike get some bt002RS

But if it's still a street/track bike get some pirelli corsa 3s.
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Old 10-18-2008, 02:10 PM   #5
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i am debating between the corsa 3's, power race's and the brigdestone's but here is my problem with bridgestone. they have so many different models and nobody seems to agree on one single model.
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try bt014 bridgestones, I like metzelers m1, but some time ago the m3 came out. of course, if you want something better you need track rubber, wich is expeeensive, and then you need to get better suspension or your frame will twist itself in kknots
what do u recommend as far as my suspension goes. are u just refering to getting my suspension set or r u recommending replacing parts?
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I would just set the suspension to your weight, patrick can do that.

and i second what japawhat said, kill those tires first, get some more seat time, learn what your bike can do, then get a little better rubber, maybe later you'll need to step up in the suspension department. maybe revalving first, unless you have the money to spend on some nice ohlins legs and a penske shock.
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i am debating between the corsa 3's, power race's and the brigdestone's but here is my problem with bridgestone. they have so many different models and nobody seems to agree on one single model.
Bridgestone 002RS are a great trackday/ street tire, and will work well within your limits as a person who is new to the sport. Once you get a bunch more time under your hat and your lap times are getting to the point where you're over-riding the tire, get the 003. You won't be disappointed in either (the 002RS or the 003PRO).

Honestly, you won't go wrong with any of the new track rubber these days, they vary only with consistency and wear, neither of which will you really test at this stage of your addiction.

The important thing with tires is, good tire pressures and good support from a local tire guy. John from SCRC gives fantastic support with both, and he'll even ship the tires to your door if you don't want to have your tires mounted for free by him at the track.

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what do u recommend as far as my suspension goes. are u just refering to getting my suspension set or r u recommending replacing parts?
I didn't see what kind of bike you're riding or the age, but just about any stock suspension on an '06- newer race replica style bike (GSXR, R1/6, 600/1000RR, etc) is going to be just fine. You can get the suspension set up for sag, rebound, damping, preload, etc by a reputable shop like Patrick's at Motorcycles Unlimited to give you more feel and control while riding.

The opinions on "what to do first" are many and varied, but any experienced racer will tell you seat time is the most valuable thing you can get for your bike and to enhance your skill

Tires are a consumable like oil, so if you want, try different brands and compare for yourself. Some folks making "tire recommendations" are only telling you what they've heard and don't have any real experience riding/ racing too- so take "advice" with a healthy dose of salt.

Personally, after trying 4 major brands of tire over the past 6 or so years, I settled on Bridgestones again this year, and couldn't be happier. The other tires just didn't stack up for performance and longevity. I haven't been shown to be wrong with them yet.
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Money no issue...get stands, tire warmers and race rubber. No doubt. I use the BT003s. Love them. Very consistant, good feel, they go off gradually and predictably. As Tom said, John will ship them to you directly.
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If you're not confident in your tires, I would go ahead and replace them. Confidence is important. Maybe burn them up on the street and then replace them just before next track day. I've been very happy with the Bridgestones. I've ran both bt002rs and 003's and loved both.
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Bridgestone 002RS are a great trackday/ street tire, and will work well within your limits as a person who is new to the sport. Once you get a bunch more time under your hat and your lap times are getting to the point where you're over-riding the tire, get the 003. You won't be disappointed in either (the 002RS or the 003PRO).

Honestly, you won't go wrong with any of the new track rubber these days, they vary only with consistency and wear, neither of which will you really test at this stage of your addiction.

The important thing with tires is, good tire pressures and good support from a local tire guy. John from SCRC gives fantastic support with both, and he'll even ship the tires to your door if you don't want to have your tires mounted for free by him at the track.



I didn't see what kind of bike you're riding or the age, but just about any stock suspension on an '06- newer race replica style bike (GSXR, R1/6, 600/1000RR, etc) is going to be just fine. You can get the suspension set up for sag, rebound, damping, preload, etc by a reputable shop like Patrick's at Motorcycles Unlimited to give you more feel and control while riding.

The opinions on "what to do first" are many and varied, but any experienced racer will tell you seat time is the most valuable thing you can get for your bike and to enhance your skill

Tires are a consumable like oil, so if you want, try different brands and compare for yourself. Some folks making "tire recommendations" are only telling you what they've heard and don't have any real experience riding/ racing too- so take "advice" with a healthy dose of salt.

Personally, after trying 4 major brands of tire over the past 6 or so years, I settled on Bridgestones again this year, and couldn't be happier. The other tires just didn't stack up for performance and longevity. I haven't been shown to be wrong with them yet.
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Money no issue...get stands, tire warmers and race rubber. No doubt. I use the BT003s. Love them. Very consistant, good feel, they go off gradually and predictably. As Tom said, John will ship them to you directly.
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If you're not confident in your tires, I would go ahead and replace them. Confidence is important. Maybe burn them up on the street and then replace them just before next track day. I've been very happy with the Bridgestones. I've ran both bt002rs and 003's and loved both.
hey bubby dont know if u remember me but u were my instructor at my last trackday at msrh on sept. 7th with ttd. I was riding the blue r6 with the bright yellow fieldsheer suit on.thanx for the input.
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hey bubby dont know if u remember me but u were my instructor at my last trackday at msrh on sept. 7th with ttd. I was riding the blue r6 with the bright yellow fieldsheer suit on.thanx for the input.
Yep. Glad to see you've got the addiction! Look forward to seeing you back out there!
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Yep. Glad to see you've got the addiction! Look forward to seeing you back out there!
u will and yes i am addicted.
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Honestly if you have stands and warmers, you way ahead of the curve. IMHO if your still riding on the street some, get the BT002 Ride Smart. They will last longer with the use of warmers, but it is not really required. If your ready to take the plunge into racetires, and it seems you have all of the needed equipment, I'd suggest the BT003's.

I advise people to not ride the BT003's on the street, that is why I suggest the BT002 Ride Smart if your still going to ride them on the street some.

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