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Old 10-16-2008, 09:29 PM   #21
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Did the 2006 R1 come stock with a slipper clutch?
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:35 PM   #23
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My recommendation, in order, would be suspension set up, good tires, track plastics, and brake pads (Vesrah RJL or SRJL's). Leave the slicks at home. Assuming you don't have warmers yet, start with the BT-002 Ride Smart or Pirelli equivalent which I believe is the Corsa 3. And read twist of the wrist II....
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No, seriously. If I was in your position (first track bike and first track day), I would:


- not worry about any mods for the first couple track days AT LEAST. Save your money and you will thank me later.
- Skip the 'mods' that are bling mods. They will not make you faster (o yeah, some say certain stickers make you faster, so make sure to get those).
- After you learn to ride the track and are feeling much more comfortable on the R1 you have (which will not be for about 4-6 track days at the minimum), you can start to add some stuff to the bike that will make it a better scalpel.
- Trust me, for the first few track days you will not need any special rubber, pads, brake lines, exhaust, PC3USB, race header gasket, levers, sprockets, wind screens, plastics, paint, etc, etc. You will be concentrating on riding in the proper way and holding the line so others can predict what you are up to on the track. All the money you spend on the above will be much better served to save and put some to use on track day fees and a bit on setting up your existing suspension with Roger @ OROR (about 30 bucks that you will think is the best money you have spent).
- THEN, after you get all the above down packed, look into proper and higher end suspension and rubbers for the bike (I would not go race yet Mr. Rossi). Something DOT is going to be just fine for you. Suspension will go with your bike a long way and can serve you well for years if you choose the right type and match for your body weight (maybe event thinking a bit ahead to what you may weigh in a year after 200 or so cheeseburgers.... lol).
- After you get yourself some good rubber and suspension (and have it set up again), get yourself some steel brake lines as your braking will become more aggressive during riding. Match it with good pads (do not have to be race but good ones that do not fade in weather). Remember, not all track days will be in sunny weather.
- After all the above, everything else will be bling bling. What I mean is unless you plan to start a race team, putting a full race exhaust will not make you ride much better/faster.

They all said it already: Suspension, rubber, maybe braking components. Plastics, etc, etc, all bling and if you have spare change, go nuts.

Even with all that stuff you will do to your R1, you will see some SV650 guys that will blow the doors off you at the track, with one hand scratching their .

I know many of our advice may be taken as something we put together in a sarcastic tone, but really, you will spend lots of money and will not be any better off until you get your riding down straight.
Some say, well, I have been riding for many years on the street. Street is a different animal all together.

Good luck to you. Hope you enjoy the R1 they are really nice bikes.









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! told me to learn to ride first!

I have actually done a few track days and feel like I can contribute by telling you what I have done.

I have no dampner, until yesterday
I have stock suspension and I am 250lbs and 6"5'. Will have suspension done on Tuesday. But felt fine until my last track day, now I am nervous about it.
I did start using BT002's but used pilot powers for my first couple of track days.
As I started getting a lil faster, I got ss front brake lines and new pads.

Then I crashed and got aftermarket clip ons and case covers.

So, IMO, unless you r a money bag, just get some good tires and learn for the first track day or three. Then see what bothers you most about the way your bike handles and go from there.

And ASK lots of questions from peeps that know what they r talking about.

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Thank you for all of the informative replies.

Trackdays are going to be my first mods.
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Old 10-17-2008, 08:21 AM   #26
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No, seriously. If I was in your position (first track bike and first track day), I would:


- not worry about any mods for the first couple track days AT LEAST. Save your money and you will thank me later.
- Skip the 'mods' that are bling mods. They will not make you faster (o yeah, some say certain stickers make you faster, so make sure to get those).
- After you learn to ride the track and are feeling much more comfortable on the R1 you have (which will not be for about 4-6 track days at the minimum), you can start to add some stuff to the bike that will make it a better scalpel.
- Trust me, for the first few track days you will not need any special rubber, pads, brake lines, exhaust, PC3USB, race header gasket, levers, sprockets, wind screens, plastics, paint, etc, etc. You will be concentrating on riding in the proper way and holding the line so others can predict what you are up to on the track. All the money you spend on the above will be much better served to save and put some to use on track day fees and a bit on setting up your existing suspension with Roger @ OROR (about 30 bucks that you will think is the best money you have spent).
- THEN, after you get all the above down packed, look into proper and higher end suspension and rubbers for the bike (I would not go race yet Mr. Rossi). Something DOT is going to be just fine for you. Suspension will go with your bike a long way and can serve you well for years if you choose the right type and match for your body weight (maybe event thinking a bit ahead to what you may weigh in a year after 200 or so cheeseburgers.... lol).
- After you get yourself some good rubber and suspension (and have it set up again), get yourself some steel brake lines as your braking will become more aggressive during riding. Match it with good pads (do not have to be race but good ones that do not fade in weather). Remember, not all track days will be in sunny weather.
- After all the above, everything else will be bling bling. What I mean is unless you plan to start a race team, putting a full race exhaust will not make you ride much better/faster.

They all said it already: Suspension, rubber, maybe braking components. Plastics, etc, etc, all bling and if you have spare change, go nuts.

Even with all that stuff you will do to your R1, you will see some SV650 guys that will blow the doors off you at the track, with one hand scratching their .

I know many of our advice may be taken as something we put together in a sarcastic tone, but really, you will spend lots of money and will not be any better off until you get your riding down straight.
Some say, well, I have been riding for many years on the street. Street is a different animal all together.

Good luck to you. Hope you enjoy the R1 they are really nice bikes.

Nice response, Ciaka.

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Old 10-17-2008, 08:34 AM   #27
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Old 10-17-2008, 08:38 AM   #28
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Having been in your position about 7 months ago (1st trackday in Nov, 2nd in March...totaled bike->new bike in April that I've converted to track bike) I would say that getting your suspension dialed in for your weight should be first. As you get faster, you'll make suspension setting adjustments along the way. First parts to add should be brakelines and pads. You'll feel more comfortable learning to brake deeper and harder if you have good consistant brake performance and feel.
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classic !!!



No, seriously. If I was in your position (first track bike and first track day), I would:


- not worry about any mods for the first couple track days AT LEAST. Save your money and you will thank me later.
- Skip the 'mods' that are bling mods. They will not make you faster (o yeah, some say certain stickers make you faster, so make sure to get those).
- After you learn to ride the track and are feeling much more comfortable on the R1 you have (which will not be for about 4-6 track days at the minimum), you can start to add some stuff to the bike that will make it a better scalpel.
- Trust me, for the first few track days you will not need any special rubber, pads, brake lines, exhaust, PC3USB, race header gasket, levers, sprockets, wind screens, plastics, paint, etc, etc. You will be concentrating on riding in the proper way and holding the line so others can predict what you are up to on the track. All the money you spend on the above will be much better served to save and put some to use on track day fees and a bit on setting up your existing suspension with Roger @ OROR (about 30 bucks that you will think is the best money you have spent).
- THEN, after you get all the above down packed, look into proper and higher end suspension and rubbers for the bike (I would not go race yet Mr. Rossi). Something DOT is going to be just fine for you. Suspension will go with your bike a long way and can serve you well for years if you choose the right type and match for your body weight (maybe event thinking a bit ahead to what you may weigh in a year after 200 or so cheeseburgers.... lol).
- After you get yourself some good rubber and suspension (and have it set up again), get yourself some steel brake lines as your braking will become more aggressive during riding. Match it with good pads (do not have to be race but good ones that do not fade in weather). Remember, not all track days will be in sunny weather.
- After all the above, everything else will be bling bling. What I mean is unless you plan to start a race team, putting a full race exhaust will not make you ride much better/faster.

They all said it already: Suspension, rubber, maybe braking components. Plastics, etc, etc, all bling and if you have spare change, go nuts.

Even with all that stuff you will do to your R1, you will see some SV650 guys that will blow the doors off you at the track, with one hand scratching their .

I know many of our advice may be taken as something we put together in a sarcastic tone, but really, you will spend lots of money and will not be any better off until you get your riding down straight.
Some say, well, I have been riding for many years on the street. Street is a different animal all together.

Good luck to you. Hope you enjoy the R1 they are really nice bikes.

Great Post. I sincerly appreciate it. Your 99 R6 is beautiful, but I was looking for a newer bike.
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:38 AM   #32
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First two mods I always do: Stainless braided brakes lines + pads, and BT003 tires.
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save your money for trackdays
bodywork, suspension,and expensive tires wont make you fast
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Just go with an open mind and learn how to ride that beast. Also, don't forget to set your tire pressure(prob 30/30cold on most street tires). Btw check the FS section for a 05 600rr that's fully prepped I heard its a pretty good deal
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BEST AND CHEAPEST MOD TO DO FIRST.....SS brake lines for the front (dont need the rear). that is the most effective mod for the money, HANDS DOWN!

here's what i would do, in this order....which i have done on my own bikes.

1. SS brake lines
2. Race brake pads (i use EBC Extreme Pro's, the HH and GFA's ain't got on these)
3. Race rubber (but if ur just starting out, keep the street tires, they r cheaper)
4. Steering damper (unless you have a stock one, you can skip this and do it later)
5. Aftermarket rear shock
6. Fork cartridge kit or racetech internals
7. all the other like exhaust, air filter, pc3, blah blah blah
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Good rubber as everyone says along with a suspension set and if you got the coin get an after market rear shock.
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! told me to learn to ride first!

I have actually done a few track days and feel like I can contribute by telling you what I have done.

I have no dampner, until yesterday
I have stock suspension and I am 250lbs and 6"5'. Will have suspension done on Tuesday. But felt fine until my last track day, now I am nervous about it.
I did start using BT002's but used pilot powers for my first couple of track days.
As I started getting a lil faster, I got ss front brake lines and new pads.

Then I crashed and got aftermarket clip ons and case covers.

So, IMO, unless you r a money bag, just get some good tires and learn for the first track day or three. Then see what bothers you most about the way your bike handles and go from there.

And ASK lots of questions from peeps that know what they r talking about.
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Which SS brake lines? I have heard to use Motul DOT 4 brake fluid.

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Motul's RBF DOT 4 brake fluid is a good. has a very high boiling point, which is great for track use.

Brake lines, brand doesn't matter...they are all the same.
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