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Old 10-15-2008, 03:51 PM   #1
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Do you think 16k miles on an 05 R6 is too many...

to put a couple thousand dollars in and get the essentials for track and eventually race?

I spoke with some knowledgeable peeps and they said they wouldn't be concerned about the miles, if it was going to be used for the track only.

My only fear is that next year, I will be looking for an engine to replace this one. Is that an irrational concern?

Sorry, racers, but I have a lot of questions and like to get as much info before I move forward.
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to put a couple thousand dollars in and get the essentials for track and eventually race?

I spoke with some knowledgeable peeps and they said they wouldn't be concerned about the miles, if it was going to be used for the track only.

My only fear is that next year, I will be looking for an engine to replace this one. Is that an irrational concern?

Sorry, racers, but I have a lot of questions and like to get as much info before I move forward.

do a compression AND leakdown test... imho that would give you a better idea of the shape your engine is in...
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If it is not broken why replace it???

That many mileage is nothing to the modern engineering and water cooled engine. With good care, that thing can last up to 60K miles or more depends on usage.
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when i was racing. i had a spare motor for every race bike i had. that way when i blew one up, id put the spare in and drop the blown one at the honda shop. musical motors i called it
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I dont think it that high.
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do a compression AND leakdown test... imho that would give you a better idea of the shape your engine is in...
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If it is not broken why replace it???

That many mileage is nothing to the modern engineering and water cooled engine. With good care, that thing can last up to 60K miles or more depends on usage.
I hav heard the same. Not 60k, but that I have nothing to worry about if I maintain it regularly.
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Old 10-15-2008, 04:03 PM   #7
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when i was racing. i had a spare motor for every race bike i had. that way when i blew one up, id put the spare in and drop the blown one at the honda shop. musical motors i called it
So would 16K miles on a bike that is only starting to be tracked concern you, Jody? Seems that track miles are a helluva lot worse than street miles.

How often to racers freshen their motors? I'd think every season or two. Assuming twelve races a season, 100 miles a race weekend, that's only 1,200 miles. Add another 500 for practice sessions.... so 1,700 miles on a race bike per season? So freshen the motor every 1,700 to 3,400 miles??
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If it is not broken why replace it???

That many mileage is nothing to the modern engineering and water cooled engine. With good care, that thing can last up to 60K miles or more depends on usage.
He's talking about running it as an exclusive track bike. Do y'all really have track bike motors with 60K on them? that would be pretty amazing.
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I've got 30k on my rc51. Runs great!

And if you were fat like me, going to track only and need suspension and a dampner and eventually body work, rearsets, slipper clutch etc etc, to the tune of 2500 bux, would u invest it in your RC51 with 30k miles? Or would you sell it and find a bike already set up?
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So would 16K miles on a bike that is only starting to be tracked concern you, Jody? Seems that track miles are a helluva lot worse than street miles.

How often to racers freshen their motors? I'd think every season or two. Assuming twelve races a season, 100 miles a race weekend, that's only 1,200 miles. Add another 500 for practice sessions.... so 1,700 miles on a race bike per season? So freshen the motor every 1,700 to 3,400 miles??
not if he's just getting started and doesnt plan on racing it and being competative.

i dont ride a bike for more than 2 seasons. so i'd race 1 motor til i tore it up, then id swap to the spare. id rebuild the other one and put it on the shelf til it was needed. rebuild, swap, repeat
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this is a good question.. i have 18k on my mine and ive dedicated it to be just track. ive always changed the oil reg. but i know track miles are rough on motors. what are some things that you should refresh every season / other season? i think its about time to adjust the valves IMO.
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And if you were fat like me, going to track only and need suspension and a dampner and eventually body work, rearsets, slipper clutch etc etc, to the tune of 2500 bux, would u invest it in your RC51 with 30k miles? Or would you sell it and find a bike already set up?
why dont u buy my 1000 ? its ready to go. all the power u'd need
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to answer your question cdill......nothing wrong with running your bike, but you are better off selling it, and maybe spending a lil more on a built bike. just gotta know who you're buying it from, or at least know what the bike has been through. sounds more of a cheaper option that way.
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why dont u buy my 1000 ? its ready to go. all the power u'd need

Maybe someday! But to be honest with you, the first time I went to MSRH, my very first track day, I almost ate 3 times on my of 1KRR. Then I decided it was too nice to wreck so I picked up this R6. The next track day WAY better on it. Then after about 5 track days, I was at TWS (Texas World Speedway) and thought I'd take the 1K out there and was MUCH slower on it than my 600.

So, I guess the bottom line, for me, is I am not good enough yet, to handle a liter bike. Maybe next year. Not to mention, it is much funner passing a liter bike on a 600.

I dunno, just my thoughts.
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to answer your question cdill......nothing wrong with running your bike, but you are better off selling it, and maybe spending a lil more on a built bike. just gotta know who you're buying it from, or at least know what the bike has been through. sounds more of a cheaper option that way.

Or I just do the suspension, pick up a used dampner, ride it next year, THEN get one ready to go.
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Maybe someday! But to be honest with you, the first time I went to MSRH, my very first track day, I almost ate 3 times on my of 1KRR. Then I decided it was too nice to wreck so I picked up this R6. The next track day WAY better on it. Then after about 5 track days, I was at TWS (Texas World Speedway) and thought I'd take the 1K out there and was MUCH slower on it than my 600.

So, I guess the bottom line, for me, is I am not good enough yet, to handle a liter bike. Maybe next year. Not to mention, it is much funner passing a liter bike on a 600.

I dunno, just my thoughts.
if u dont feel u are ready. i understand. it took me awhile to convert Jeff & Wade of LSTD to litre bikes. but now they see the light
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great question man. I was pondering selling my 1000 to get a 750 or 600 to race in more classes next year. I got 3500 miles on it so far. Half track half street. It runs great still. I'm going to get a tune up this winter on it is all. I've got so much into mine though for track ready and cool toys that I can't see selling it for a smaller or different bike. To answer your question if your thinking you want a new bike anyway in as soon as a year then sale it before you put more money into it, but not because of the mileage. If the funds are not there right now then run with what you got and add the mods you need for racing. Then sale it as a track/race ready bike when your ready to get something new.
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