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Old 10-13-2008, 10:12 AM   #1
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Angry Track Day Saftey Issue

In light of current events, I want to comment on an issue that is quickly becoming a real pet peeve of mine.


No matter what track day org you are riding with if you see someone doing something unsafe or blatantly breaking the rules set by the track day org, Report Them!!! Right after it happens. Pull in to hot pits and tell the grid marshal (or an instructor) so that it can be dealt with. It can be something as simple as (although highly dangerous) not signaling when pulling off the track or something worse like bad passing etiquette. Doing so could possibly prevent some of these track accidents from happening. Instructors canít see every single event on the track and we need the participants to help us out with safety concerns so that we can address them before something serious happens. Reading about an issue on a website after the fact, that was never reported, really ticks me off.

I think that it is safe to say that all of the track day orgs want one thing more than anything else. We want all of the riders to go home safe and in one piece. Please help us achieve this.
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Old 10-13-2008, 10:18 AM   #2
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+1 billion to all above comments.

And please, all track day organizers, make sure you have a "process" to not only inform, but then monitor, those with "bad" behavior. This would include having a designated instructor pay special attention, notifying all corner workers of the need to monitor, discussing with riders in general at break out times....etc...
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Old 10-13-2008, 10:23 AM   #3
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Well said Gavin!

Safety is the number 1 priority!, but it rakes everyone's help!
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we all see safety concerns, but they must not be overlooked. it could be me, it could be him, it could be you that is the unfortunate one. so please, like Gavin said TELL SOMEONE ASAP
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In my particular case there was no harm and no foul so I did not see a reason to get with the officials, it was just a close call and I did not let it effect the rest of my day. It is kinda funny because the only thought that went through my head was " dude share the track" LOL we rubbed knees just a bit probaly cuz i ride like a frog.
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In my particular case there was no harm and no foul so I did not see a reason to get with the officials, it was just a close call and I did not let it effect the rest of my day. It is kinda funny because the only thought that went through my head was " dude share the track" LOL we rubbed knees just a bit probaly cuz i ride like a frog.
This time it was no harm.
There was an event at OHR about a year ago w/ CMRA and some asshat had crossed the track to exit w/o any signals cutting off Jason and myself causing a serious accident and massive medical expenses.

This time may not have caused harm but, it can and does happen.
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[SIZE="3"]Instructors canít see every single event on the track and we need the participants to help us out with safety concerns so that we can address them before something serious happens. SIZE]
You guys do see a lot of stuff though. Just wanted to say thanks again. You had the offending person off the track and spoke with them before I got in to report the bad pass to control.
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You guys do see a lot of stuff though. Just wanted to say thanks again. You had the offending person off the track and spoke with them before I got in to report the bad pass to control.
I was guilty of poor (late) signaling to exit at MSR Adv. class last Sat. The gentleman kindly pointed that out to me and we discussed better signaling as it took him by surprize near the carrosel...

I find most riders will discuss it personally first, but I did notice some sketchy passes from the same rider... We should have reported the incident as a prevention....

Thanks for the reminder...

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+1 billion to all above comments.

And please, all track day organizers, make sure you have a "process" to not only inform, but then monitor, those with "bad" behavior. This would include having a designated instructor pay special attention, notifying all corner workers of the need to monitor, discussing with riders in general at break out times....etc...
I have been one to come right off my bike, hunt down the offending bike and politely tell them what they did wrong and that not only would I be personally looking for him out there but also that I would have one of the instructors looking also. Safety is first, and help is appreciated. The CW's are our eyes and ears out there but they don't see everything in between. Good post
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I am gonna start reporting a lot of you, especially instructors passing closely, passing on the inside, riding faster than the group pace and always turning around to look in the back and tap the tail ends, doing wheelies.
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And I'm gonna find out who keeps wearing those 80's mesh bras / jerseys / dance outfits over their leathers. I know fashion has it's place, but there must have been 6 or 8 fast guys and girls out on Sunday at MSRH airing out their little flashdance skimpy fit perforated tees in green, blue, and other 80's colors. Some on Motohouston even have their little ghey jerseys on in their avatar pics. I know they are not sports figures cause they don't have numbers on the jerseys. I remember when guys wearing thongs, some even leopard print, was all the rage on MH. Now it's fashion on top of leathers. Next trackday I'm gonna wear my BVD's and a hot pink mossimo tank top on the outside, just cause I like em to fit snug and they look sexy.


Oh snap, that's instructors? Nevermind.
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And I'm gonna find out who keeps wearing those 80's mesh bras / jerseys / dance outfits over their leathers. I know fashion has it's place, but there must have been 6 or 8 fast guys and girls out on Sunday at MSRH airing out their little flashdance skimpy fit perforated tees in green, blue, and other 80's colors. Some on Motohouston even have their little ghey jerseys on in their avatar pics. I know they are not sports figures cause they don't have numbers on the jerseys. I remember when guys wearing thongs, some even leopard print, was all the rage on MH. Now it's fashion on top of leathers. Next trackday I'm gonna wear my BVD's and a hot pink mossimo tank top on the outside, just cause I like em to fit snug and they look sexy.


Oh snap, that's instructors? Nevermind.
lol, that was funny.
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Can I turn in the fast guys?
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I am gonna start reporting a lot of you, especially instructors passing closely, passing on the inside, riding faster than the group pace and always turning around to look in the back and tap the tail ends, doing wheelies.


on topic though, a problem cannot be resolved if the problem is not mentioned. thanks for posting this gavin.....i hope everyone takes this post seriously.
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In light of current events, I want to comment on an issue that is quickly becoming a real pet peeve of mine.


No matter what track day org you are riding with if you see someone doing something unsafe or blatantly breaking the rules set by the track day org, Report Them!!! Right after it happens. Pull in to hot pits and tell the grid marshal (or an instructor) so that it can be dealt with. It can be something as simple as (although highly dangerous) not signaling when pulling off the track or something worse like bad passing etiquette. Doing so could possibly prevent some of these track accidents from happening. Instructors canít see every single event on the track and we need the participants to help us out with safety concerns so that we can address them before something serious happens. Reading about an issue on a website after the fact, that was never reported, really ticks me off.

I think that it is safe to say that all of the track day orgs want one thing more than anything else. We want all of the riders to go home safe and in one piece. Please help us achieve this.

as if there arent enough crybabies at the trackdays already
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Old 10-14-2008, 02:57 PM   #18
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Can I edit out my foolishness?

As long as each trackday has one position designated for on track safety it should never be considered nagging, bothering, or adding to stress and drawing from where attention is due. Instead, it's Standard Operating Procedure, and ALL at the track should be encouraged to respect the authority of the position and report all behavior accordingly.
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