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Old 10-12-2008, 05:07 PM   #1
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Track Bike Setup Questions.

I feel like I am getting fast enuf to start asking these questions. I have broken the 1:50 mark at MSRH and I am a big guy, 250lbs, so I am getting nervous about my set up.

So here is the deal, I have probably 1000 bux to put into my 05 R6. I want to be a good rider and I want to be fast, so please, just advice to help me get there and get there with the safest bike. Currently I am running BT002RS, have a slip on and suspension set for me. Other than that, my bike is completely stock.

I know 1k isnt enuf for suspension, I dont think, so my list (and I need to narrow it) goes something like this...

1. New sprocket, 1 down in the front.
2. Dampner
3. Adjustable rear sets
4. suspension
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6. tires (not going to count against the 1k bux)

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Or maybe I sell my bike and buy one already set up in the off season.
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Old 10-12-2008, 05:54 PM   #4
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did you see the red and white GSXR-600 running low low 140s?? stock bike. no suspension, no rearsets. pretty sure all he has is SS front brake lines and EBC (good, not clear on name) front pads. and he had BT002RS tires (race/street)

Anything will help. i'd say if you spend any money get the tires and race fairings.

that way you can go faster, and it wont cost as much when you wreck. (its not if, its when.)

my .02. get under 1:45 at that track then look into suspension.

i run 1:48s, CONSISTENTLY at MSRH on my stunt bike (top speed 120. DB bars, stock suspension on a F4i)
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did you see the red and white GSXR-600 running low low 140s?? stock bike. no suspension, no rearsets. pretty sure all he has is SS front brake lines and EBC (good, not clear on name) front pads. and he had BT002RS tires (race/street)

Anything will help. i'd say if you spend any money get the tires and race fairings.

that way you can go faster, and it wont cost as much when you wreck. (its not if, its when.)

my .02. get under 1:45 at that track then look into suspension.

i run 1:48s, CONSISTENTLY at MSRH on my stunt bike (top speed 120. DB bars, stock suspension on a F4i)
r u talking about gonzo?

I did fail to mention that I have SS lines and EBC pads.

At 250lbs, you think stock suspension is ok to run UNDER 1:45?

Oh, and I have already wrecked, sir. And will again I am sure.
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did you see the red and white GSXR-600 running low low 140s?? stock bike. no suspension, no rearsets. pretty sure all he has is SS front brake lines and EBC (good, not clear on name) front pads. and he had BT002RS tires (race/street)

Anything will help. i'd say if you spend any money get the tires and race fairings.

that way you can go faster, and it wont cost as much when you wreck. (its not if, its when.)

my .02. get under 1:45 at that track then look into suspension.

i run 1:48s, CONSISTENTLY at MSRH on my stunt bike (top speed 120. DB bars, stock suspension on a F4i)
On the race track, I'd give my left nut to weigh 150 lbs like Clayton. Of course, I'd want my nut back when I left the track so I could be a BigFoot again. You little guys can't imagine what a stock suspension feels like when you add all that weight to it.

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On the race track, I'd give my left nut to weigh 150 lbs like Clayton. Of course, I'd want my nut back when I left the track so I could be a BigFoot again. You little guys can't imagine what a stock suspension feels like when you add all that weight to it.

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true true. didnt take that into consideration. my back wheel hits my battery tray and i weigh 135. but i stunt the outa my bike. and its a f4i. not exactly a R6 or GSXR.

good point. maybe some racetech internals to get better springs. hit up Patrick on here or call him at Motorcycles Unlimited on tuesday phone # in my sig. he can answer those questions.
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i'm around your weight and i've found the limits of stock suspension several times. check the wera boards for a used penske double clicker and get the front revalved and resprung. it shouldn't run you too much over your budget, but suspension is the first thing i'd do to a trackbike.

check out the elka 2-way shocks, they're pretty affordable.
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i'm around your weight and i've found the limits of stock suspension several times. check the wera boards for a used penske double clicker and get the front revalved and resprung. it shouldn't run you too much over your budget, but suspension is the first thing i'd do to a trackbike.

check out the elka 2-way shocks, they're pretty affordable.

I have began browsing the wera boards and will do more. From what I have heard, and a PM or 2, I think I am leaning that way.
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get a rear shock first and with the leftover money find yourself a steering damper....then when more money comes available, rework the suspension with racetech internals or some fork cartridge kits.

you should easily be able to find a rear shock for under 1,000. i just bought a penske double clicker shock and ak20 fork cartridges for about 1,400. (not factoring in cost of installation of course)
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get a rear shock first and with the leftover money find yourself a steering damper....then when more money comes available, rework the suspension with racetech internals or some fork cartridge kits.

you should easily be able to find a rear shock for under 1,000. i just bought a penske double clicker shock and ak20 fork cartridges for about 1,400. (not factoring in cost of installation of course)
Ya see... those prices have me condsidering selling mine, as street legal, cuz it is, and just buying one, with all that on it, off the boards. Especially if it becomes clear that suspension is the way to go and we start talking 1500 bux.

This is expensive. I should get into remote control cars or sumthin.
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Hey Brandt if you go down the route of buying a race bike, keep in mind the shock and forks will still need to be resprung and revalved for your weight. Unless you get lucky and find a bike from another BigFoot.
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Hey Brandt if you go down the route of buying a race bike, keep in mind the shock and forks will still need to be resprung and revalved for your weight. Unless you get lucky and find a bike from another BigFoot.
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Hey Brandt if you go down the route of buying a race bike, keep in mind the shock and forks will still need to be resprung and revalved for your weight. Unless you get lucky and find a bike from another BigFoot.

so you cant just have them adjusted for your weight? You still gotta do all that "springin and valvin?"

Im such a noob.
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When you racer guys send your shocks and forks in for refreshening, what does it normal cost. Say for a penske or ohlins? If they are resprung and revalved, how expensive is that?

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Brandt, check out this URL on racetech.com. It gives you an idea of the different spring rates recommended for riders of different sizes.

http://www.racetech.com/evalving/Spr...ork&bikeid=394 this is for my gsxr.

Or start from this URL http://www.racetech.com/SubMenu.asp?...howPage=street and look for the spring rates search link in the upper left hand corner.

BTW, when I do this for my bike and weight, they don't make a large enough spring for the shock. NO MORE HO-HO'S.

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even buying used shocks or forks, they need to be resprung for your weight, so you must factor in that cost. sometimes its not cost effective to buy used unless its already setup the way you need it. i got lucky and found a rear shock already sprung for me. i just had to get it adjusted.
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Tires/Right springs for your weight in the forks/Rear shock.

You should be able to pull that off with a grand. With the right springs you won’t be loading up your suspension so bad and feel like your riding over your bike. Should help a lot!
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