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Old 10-08-2008, 01:17 PM   #1
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MSRH vs GSS

Just curious, I have never done track time. I am in Houston area and looking to ride one of these courses. Which is better for first timer? What track do you guys prefer? MSRH vs GSS
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Just curious, I have never done track time. I am in Houston area and looking to ride one of these courses. Which is better for first timer? What track do you guys prefer? MSRH vs GSS
To be clear on your question.

Are you a first timer to the track scene period, or do you mean a first timer to a Houston area track?

If you have ridden track before, I would say probably MSRH. Much longer of a track and better facilites...

But on the other side of the coin you can hit up GSS for a few less $$.
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First timer at the track. In fact, i gonna do corner work this weekend to check out MSRH. Maybe if i get a chance i will be riding at GSS two weeks from now.
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Many say that GSS is pretty tight for a sportbike but perfect for a motard, while MSRH is somewhat more open with longer straights, some sweepers and a great technical section.

My opinion is that MSRH is a good mix of high speed stuff with enough technical (tighter turns) to keep you on your toes.
Perfect for an R6.
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I have only ridden three tracks: Texas World speedway, MSR-H and GSS. I like MSR-H the most since it has a combination of both TWS (Texas World Speedway) and GSS on it.
GSS has sharp turns and it is somehow complicated (at least for me), the problem is that it is too short (1.3 miles). Texas World speedway is larger (2.9 miles) and is a fast track but curves are not that technical.
MSR-H has a good size 92.4 miles) with technical curves and long straight-aways.
Like I said my favorite is MSR-H but I ride every track when I have the chance, so that is why my advice is: ride them all.
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I have only ridden three tracks: Texas World speedway, MSR-H and GSS. I like MSR-H the most since it has a combination of both TWS (Texas World Speedway) and GSS on it.
GSS has sharp turns and it is somehow complicated (at least for me), the problem is that it is too short (1.3 miles). Texas World speedway is larger (2.9 miles) and is a fast track but curves are not that technical.
MSR-H has a good size 92.4 miles) with technical curves and long straight-aways.
Like I said my favorite is MSR-H but I ride every track when I have the chance, so that is why my advice is: ride them all.
92 miles huh? How so it take about an hour to do a lap? that is awesome I have to check it out. j/k
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LOL it's my favorite track too...after Barber of course.
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What are the top speeds are like at MSRH and GSS? Also the turning speed? I do hear alot that TSW is high speed track. I will hit that up next month during thanksgiving weekend. That will be pure joy.

I gonna cram some track days this month and November before the season is over. I didn't get to ride much this year due to busy scheudle. So I am gonna go tracking and check out what's all about. I hear it's addictive and hope that i will get addicted.

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What are the top speeds are like at MSRH and GSS? Also the turning speed? I do hear alot that TSW is high speed track. I will hit that up next month during thanksgiving weekend. That will be pure joy.

I gonna cram some track days this month and November before the season is over. I didn't get to ride much this year due to busy scheudle. So I am gonna go tracking and check out what's all about. I hear it's addictive and hope that i will get addicted.
I am still very slow on the track, recorded speeds are:

TWS (Texas World Speedway): 143 in the straight. Curves from 50 to 80 MPH.
MSR-H: 115 in the straight. Curves from 35 to 80 MPH.
GSS: have only ridden it once but I think I was doing like 80 in the straight and 30 in the curves.

Again, I am very slow and by the way, It is not wise to look at the speedo when you are ridding, this are from the videos I have taken.
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GSS is one of my favorite tracks. it's tight, technical, and an load of fun! It is the smoothest track in Texas. You won't get much over 100 out there, but it will work you like no other track.

One of the things I really like about it that it is very challenging.

MSRH is a great track, but neither compare to the other. You'll learn tons from both, but you don't want to miss GSS
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Don't worry about what track is "better" for a first timer. Tracks all have their own unique characteristics, and as a noob, you'll probably feel a bit overwhelmed (to a point) not matter what track you go to.

Either track, can't go wrong!

Be prepared at GSS though, you'll need to bring some shade and plenty of cold drinks if it's hot outside.

If you want to ride the "best" track, MSR (in Cresson) is #1 in most folk's books, probably followed by Eagle's Canyon. Both are 3.5+ hours away, but worth every minute of drive time.

There are lots of great tracks in Texas, try 'em all!

I've got some track information here if you're interested in a preview:

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=152

Look under "guides to Texas tracks"
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+1 I've ridden Cresson the last 2 weekends and man I forgot how much I loved that place.
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MSR-H: 115 in the straight. Curves from 35 to 80 MPH.
at a steady lap time of 1:48 at MSRH i am running my rev limiter from the end of the sweeper onto the long straight all the way into the next corner. my bike redlines at about 120 mph. i'd say most bikes running a 1:50-2:00 pace top out around 135 out there, i'm special. it is very common for me to pass people through the technical part and then be repassed on the straight, only to pass them again at the next corner, and never see them again. so i KNOW people that are running severl seconds slower than me / lap are running 130 plus.


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MSRH! Is my favorite track by far! But if you are worried about speed GSS is a good choice! It will teach you a ton without you having to worry about alot of triple digit speeds!
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