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Old 10-06-2008, 01:38 PM   #1
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Dynojet PCM5 / Wide Band 2 Information

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From my previous thread, y'all are aware that I'm exploring options for a wide band air/fuel monitoring and recording device for my '08 GSXR-1000. I was looking at both the Wide Band Commander and the new Wide Band Commander 2 from Dynojet, since I already have the full complement of PCM III, ignition module, and quick shifter.

The wide band commander 2 (WBC-2) is so new that I ended up calling Dynojet for better information. I learned some very interesting information.

Dynojet is on the cusp of releasing a new Power Commander, called the Power Commander 5 (PCM-5). Target date is November. The Power Commander 5 will offer the PCM-3 features plus:

-kill time per gear for the quick shifter
-fuel map per gear
-and all the multi-hub functions will be built into the PCM-5. This means you'll be able to run multiple maps and switch them on the fly via a switch on the bars.
- further it will have tight integration with the WBC-2 thus offering automatic tuning of air / fuel mixtures based on the A/F data coming from the WBC-2
-when coupled with the LCD-200, data from both the PCM5 and WBC-2 can be logged to an SD memory card up to 1GB in size.

The PCM-5 will not support traction control, as Dynojet believes the only correct way to do that is with additional sensors.

The intent is for the PCM-5 and all the accessories to be targeted for '09 bikes. There will be some level of backward compatibility. The Dynojet guy indicated it would be compatible with my '08 GSXR.

Pricing of the PCM-5 is expected to be within $10 of the PCM-3 USB. Ignition module and quick shifter will be about the same. The WBC-2 with the LCD-200 will retail at $499.00. So all up, you are looking at about $1,300.

Some other factoids:

The Wide Band Commander 2 is not compatible, i.e. it will not plug into a PCM-3. If you install both products, they are completely separate.

The Wide Band Commander 1 can plug into the Dynojet LCD-100 and the same time as the PCM-3, so you can take advantage of the data logging from the LCD-100 and capture both PCM3 and WBC-1 data. Pricing for a WBC-1 plus an LCD-100 is about $630.00 retail.

The LCD-100 and LCD-200 (which can be purchased with the WBC-2) are the same product with different firmware. Therefore the LCD-100 is upgradable to an LCD-200. However the LCD-200 is not compatible with the PCM-3.

The WBC-2 is physically much smaller than the WBC-1. The WBC-1 is roughly the same same as a PowerCommander. The WBC-2 is the size of the PCM-3 ignition module.

The WBC-2 has no built in data logging capability. Data logging is only possible when integrated with the LCD-200.

Wide Band Commander URL is http://widebandcommander.com/wbc_productinfo.aspx

Wide Band Commander 2 URL is http://www.dynojetwb2.com
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:57 PM   #2
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Im curious which processors could work with this.

The older bikes may not be available due to processor speed.

Really awesome stuff though!
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Im curious which processors could work with this.

The older bikes may not be available due to processor speed.

Really awesome stuff though!
Agreed. That's why he indicated that Dynojet was targeted '09 bikes and newer. There would be some level of backwards compatibility, like my '08 GSXR, but he was clearly setting my expectations that it would only work with the newer bikes.
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Plus the cost of getting the connection welded into your exhaust
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had a wideband 02 on my camaro ss, made a world of difference tuning it on ls1edit.
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anyone know of any maps for a 07 gsxr 750
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Plus the cost of getting the connection welded into your exhaust
akra's come with the o2 bung; woo hoo!!!
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anyone know of any maps for a 07 gsxr 750
check the dynojet website.
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For the older bikes you can get stand-alone 02s for lean/rich mixture checks; both permanent mount and muffler clip-type.
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yall should really check out bazzaz performance. they are ahead of the game on dynojet.

they already have switchable map on the fly, closed loop system (self mapping), and everything else mentioned.

www.bazzazperformance.com
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wrd. bazzazz is the system to go with as of now. they even have a very effective traction control system. pretty sweet.
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Has anyone used the Bazzaz quick shifter, did you use there setup or get it dyno tuned?
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Sorry for the thread jack, i will start another one
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If I had it to do over, I'd have Bazzaz on my bike....
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