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Old 10-04-2008, 11:04 PM   #1
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i ended up posting this in the wrong section, so's I'll redo it here.

I bought this bike new in 04 (Hardley 1200 Roadster), ran out of it since day one, at 8k miles, I installed the turbo kit, ran out of it some more, then at 12k I tore the motor down for no other reason but to do a Nallin performance big bore, heads, cams, , everything that almost could be done was done, it was a beast. At 13.5 k miles I re-installed the turbo kit and abused it heartily, I think she liked it. At 20k miles, removed the turbo kit and sold it to a drag racing dude. and at 21k miles I installed jockey shifter, foot clutch etc and basically had to learn to ride all over again, so basically going easy on the bike, just a few full rolling burnouts every once in a while. ( read that as every time I'm on the bike, I'm weird like that)
Fast forward to today, at 21.9k miles, she started blowing oil and heavy smoke from the front cylinder. It happened on a 6k rpm launch and when it was in second, the front wheel was up about 6", the rear tire was melting off at space shuttle speed and it sputtered, sat the front tire down and then went back up with it, never stopped smoking the rear. I shut it down and it and rode it in the garage and am going to do a tear down tomorrow and put the new motor in until I can get these high dollar hot rod goodies sent away and repaired. Its even smoking on decel which I'm thinking valve / guide issues, but the amount of smoke when its romped on could kill an acre of mosquitos in a blink, which makes me think broken ring, scarred cylinders etc etc. Bottom end is still healthy after all these miles and I think I will still use it as the base for the next turbo motor build, balanced crank and all.
so's, that being said, the killer Hardley is down and out for a day or two until I can get the new motor sat in.
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:31 AM   #2
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seems like it did well for the life it had, even a car motor can live a life like that for long.

are you surprised it did fail?
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Wow! that's probably the first good Harley story I've ever heard


Last week we had a guy come into the shop with an 06 1200 that he bought used from the Harley shop. When I say used, it had 1500 miles & was part of their rental fleet. Two months later the thing broke down. After paying a big bill he got a mile down the road & broke down again. After that they said they were stumped & didn't want to work on it. They told him to ship it back to milwaukee to see if they had any ideas...........
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[QUOTE=maskale;1472088]seems like it did well for the life it had, even a car motor can live a life like that for long.

are you surprised it did fail?[/QUOTE]

nah, no, this motor deserves a rest, I always said it could go whenever it wanted and I wouldnt be upset. At least it didnt grenade and spread parts, Its done well indeed and it will live again soon. I've already got it torn completely down and am almost ready to install the new pistons, cylinders and heads and even new cams.
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Wow! that's probably the first good Harley story I've ever heard


Last week we had a guy come into the shop with an 06 1200 that he bought used from the Harley shop. When I say used, it had 1500 miles & was part of their rental fleet. Two months later the thing broke down. After paying a big bill he got a mile down the road & broke down again. After that they said they were stumped & didn't want to work on it. They told him to ship it back to milwaukee to see if they had any ideas...........
doesnt make sense, the new evo motor is a solid reliable . best as far as reliabilty beside the vrod, and thats porche engineering.
This has been the best bike I've ever owned as far as reliability and rideability, its always been ready to get abused, no matter how many miles at a time. Its never left me stranded, even when I tore it up, I still rode it home. wooot
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doesnt make sense, the new evo motor is a solid reliable . best as far as reliabilty beside the vrod, and thats porche engineering.
This has been the best bike I've ever owned as far as reliability and rideability, its always been ready to get abused, no matter how many miles at a time. Its never left me stranded, even when I tore it up, I still rode it home. wooot
good job tearing up a motor seems like you were using it well
a old car racer I met has been through 13 motors on his car and still drives it

don't know how great the new evo motors are though, the one new model, lowish mileage, harley I rented, was leaking oil all over the place by he time I was done with it...
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I just got it back together and running like a champ. approx. 5 hours, torn down to the rods, installed new pistons, rings, cylinders, cams, heads and back on the road approx. 10 minutes ago, zero leaks, woooot.
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good to hear it's back up and running. so what ended up being the problem? cracked ring after all?
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^^ i really dont know, the front cylinder had more wear than the rear, the valve guides prolly are toast because it was smoking bad on decel too, I dunno yet, am sending it all off to be looked at, was weird it just started smoking after the launch, we talked about it and while we were discussing, it started rolling smoke heavier out of the front cylinder and the pipe was dripping wet with un-burnt oil, but zero cracked rings and major scarring, weird.
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