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Old 09-23-2008, 05:28 PM   #1
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Spies to replace Haga????

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...?article=34340


I think he would fit in quite well in WSBK....
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Agreed. I think it would be a good fit. Then I can start rooting for him, being on a Yami... And a Texan. Hope he get's picked up by someone. He needs to be given a chance. I was really impressed after Indy MotoGP.
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Agreed. I think it would be a good fit. Then I can start rooting for him, being on a Yami... And a Texan. Hope he get's picked up by someone. He needs to be given a chance. I was really impressed after Indy MotoGP.
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I like the way he rides but could not say it out loud since he was running for Suzuki but if he becomes a Yami pilot: Go Spies!!!!!!!
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This is badass. I will nice to have an American on a dominant team at the world superbike level. James Ellision hasn't been doing too well. I think it safe to say Spies has the skill step in and be a contender. Then maybe, he can get a good ride at the GP level.
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Although I read RRW (John's World) quite often, it is JUST a rumor. Think (analyze) this a bit: Haga is in serious contention to give Yamaha a rare World Championship, even if it is in production racing. (It has even been two years since in MotoGP!) Haga has shown strong form the last couple of years. He has also shown a great attitude and a desire for a World Championship before he retires (which could be a few years, yet!)

Ben Spies is VERY valuable to Suzuki's MotoGP program. With 3 AMA SBK championships AND a strong showing in MotoGP, he shows the promise of taking Suzuki's program back to the World Championship level where it has not been since 2000 with KRJR.

Although, I enjoy a good rumor as much as anyone, this particular one does not stand up to the scrutiny of basic analysis.

NEXT!!!
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Although I read RRW (John's World) quite often, it is JUST a rumor. Think (analyze) this a bit: Haga is in serious contention to give Yamaha a rare World Championship, even if it is in production racing. (It has even been two years since in MotoGP!) Haga has shown strong form the last couple of years. He has also shown a great attitude and a desire for a World Championship before he retires (which could be a few years, yet!)

Ben Spies is VERY valuable to Suzuki's MotoGP program. With 3 AMA SBK championships AND a strong showing in MotoGP, he shows the promise of taking Suzuki's program back to the World Championship level where it has not been since 2000 with KRJR.



Although, I enjoy a good rumor as much as anyone, this particular one does not stand up to the scrutiny of basic analysis.

NEXT!!!
Yeah but Spies wants to move to another class, and the new AMA rules are up in the air. Also, what else does Spies have to prove in AMA?? Haga has signed with Ducati. He is gone. Let Spies fill the spot.
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Although I read RRW (John's World) quite often, it is JUST a rumor. Think (analyze) this a bit: Haga is in serious contention to give Yamaha a rare World Championship, even if it is in production racing. (It has even been two years since in MotoGP!) Haga has shown strong form the last couple of years. He has also shown a great attitude and a desire for a World Championship before he retires (which could be a few years, yet!)

Ben Spies is VERY valuable to Suzuki's MotoGP program. With 3 AMA SBK championships AND a strong showing in MotoGP, he shows the promise of taking Suzuki's program back to the World Championship level where it has not been since 2000 with KRJR.

Although, I enjoy a good rumor as much as anyone, this particular one does not stand up to the scrutiny of basic analysis.

NEXT!!!
Hmmm, yeah, makes some sense IF Haga wasn't going to Ducati. I can totally see Yamaha trying to woo Spies over to their camp with no announced replacement for Haga yet.

Spies has made mention of considering WSBK, but that he "wants" MotoGP. Since the third Zook spot dried up and KS isn't getting his foot in the door with a team, that leaves Suzuki pretty well out of the picture for Spies/ Zook relationship in MotoGP. Zook has their MotoGP riders lined out for next season. Now, Alstare in WSBK, maybe there's a Zook spot there.

I think the Yami move is viable for Spies. Time will tell. Everyone is getting anxious to see what happens to Elbowz!
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Tommy Sykes is a done deal for the Yamaha squad.
Quintoli tested the WSBK Yamaha yesterday and came within a second of Haga's FL
Corser still not yet confirmed.
Now Spies in the picture.
So much talent, so few rides........

He needs to get onto the world stage now,
Alstare would be a good move if nothing materialises in MotoGP,
hope his "alleged" wage demands have been rethought or I can't see him going anywhere and that would be a great shame
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ben said he would have his plans for next year confirmed by the indianapolis gp but all that got confirmed that week was that caparossi and vermulen both re-signed with suzuki. so with no place left in motogp(except nickys spot at honda)wsbk would be next best thing. he talked with a few teams at miller and alstare suzuki did say they wanted him for 09, and yamaha signed sykes last week, i dont think corser has re-signed yet and i haven't heard of a second rider at bmw or aprilla
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Corser is going to retire.
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My going to WSB Yamaha he will be taking a 10 or 20 fold cut in pay. I do not think this will happen..he is staying in AMA.

WSB would be a step down at this point.
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That Yamaha is a hott ride! May be worth it to take a cut in pay to get a title out of WSBK. Then all he needs is a title in GP to be in very rare company, AMA title, WSBK title, and a Moto GP title. What a life. He could really do all that, before he turns 26 years old. Just amazing!
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It would be a shame for such a talent to stay here in US superbike for no other reason than money alone. greed seems to be driving everything these days.
I think he's ready to take on the world and would love for him to represent the US in either WSBK or MotoGP.
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It would be a shame for such a talent to stay here in US superbike for no other reason than money alone. greed seems to be driving everything these days.
I think he's ready to take on the world and would love for him to represent the US in either WSBK or MotoGP.

Agreed. And remember AMA next year is not going to be the same. Heck it may not even happen. We will have to see. As a rider he needs to get on a new series to grow. Learn some new tracks, compete with the big boys. He has shown he has the talent, someone just needs to give him a chance. Besides, if he can win consistently in WSBK or MotoGP the $$ will come. I think Rossi makes more than he does, probably 5x more at $13,000,000.00 so the $$ is out there.
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I think Rossi's 2007 earnings have been quoted closer to $40,000,000 but even that may be under estimated.
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It would be a shame for such a talent to stay here in US superbike for no other reason than money alone. greed seems to be driving everything these days.
I think he's ready to take on the world and would love for him to represent the US in either WSBK or MotoGP.
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he'll be financially secure for life but he'll have missed an opportunity that money can't buy.
Hopkins joined Suzuki (MotoGP) for next to nothing (relatively) and now is reputedly the 2nd or 3rd highest paid rider in MotoGP.
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My going to WSB Yamaha he will be taking a 10 or 20 fold cut in pay. I do not think this will happen..he is staying in AMA.

WSB would be a step down at this point.
Doubtful since Yosh Suzuki is very adamant about pulling the plug on DMG's version of racing with the AMA.

Iffffff they do pull the plug will they, Yosh, compete in the new US Superbike series or will they take their toys and try their luck with the big dogs (WSBK)???

A whole lot of cards are left on the table at this point, leaving us wondering what will be dealt next.
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My going to WSB Yamaha he will be taking a 10 or 20 fold cut in pay. I do not think this will happen..he is staying in AMA.

WSB would be a step down at this point.
Doubtful. "Staying in the AMA" is a joke at this point. Even if the series survives for next year, it's going to be a building project and you can bet that the factories aren't going to pay shyte to the riders. AMA won't be able to afford Spies at this point and as long as things keep going the way they are.

WSBK is about the only option to him to keep a good paying ride going outside of MotoGP. None of the top AMA riders want to stay in a situation that is uncertain, and I seriously doubt that the factories are going to pay anything for a series that may or may not make money.
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Doubtful. "Staying in the AMA" is a joke at this point. Even if the series survives for next year, it's going to be a building project and you can bet that the factories aren't going to pay shyte to the riders. AMA won't be able to afford Spies at this point and as long as things keep going the way they are.

WSBK is about the only option to him to keep a good paying ride going outside of MotoGP. None of the top AMA riders want to stay in a situation that is uncertain, and I seriously doubt that the factories are going to pay anything for a series that may or may not make money.
We saw hayes already racing a WSS race where i think i heard hayes and zemke are joining running ducs in WSBK, i might be wrong and it is just a rumor.

The way is shapping spies will end in WSBK like i said many many months ago, i hope i am wrong and he gets a GP ride...maybe in a DUC!!!!!!!
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Doubtful since Yosh Suzuki is very adamant about pulling the plug on DMG's version of racing with the AMA.

Iffffff they do pull the plug will they, Yosh, compete in the new US Superbike series or will they take their toys and try their luck with the big dogs (WSBK)???

A whole lot of cards are left on the table at this point, leaving us wondering what will be dealt next.

Errrr.... there is no such thing as Yoshimura Suzuki anymore. It's been Rockstar Makita this whole year... Yosh is nothing more than a peripheral sponsor now.
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