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Old 09-09-2008, 11:02 AM   #21
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He rides similar to the late Nori Abe; a very front heavy approach. It doesn't work for everyone, obviously. There are better pictures of Abe out there that demonstrate this, but I couldn't find one off the cusp.
http://www.mvagusta.net/forum/attach...1&d=1191871223

One of the things this picture illustrates is that tires have tremendous grip all the way to the edge and beyond. Most people don't get near the limits of a tire's grip even when they have exceed their own personal limits.

This picture also tells me that this guy's bike is likely to be well sorted out suspension-wise for him. It'd be hard to get away with riding like this if the suspenstion was drastically too soft or too stiff.

Another thing it tells me is that everyone has thier own style. Find what works and go with it. Kenny Roberts wasn't the first guy to drag his knees, but he's the one that popularized it. He was called a fool by many of his peers...until he beat them.
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Old 09-09-2008, 11:29 AM   #22
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dustin dominguez also rides like that.....and he is one of the top 5 experts in cmra.....smokin fast as well.
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Old 09-09-2008, 11:30 AM   #23
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dustin dominguez also rides like that.....and he is one of the top 5 experts in cmra.....smokin fast as well.
, hes in front of Ty in that pic...lol
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Old 09-09-2008, 11:45 AM   #24
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why not get contacts chris?
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Old 09-09-2008, 11:57 AM   #25
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why not get contacts chris?
need to really, just havent... I want lasik, but I hate the thought of touching my eyeball, pretty much why I dont have contacts... lol
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:03 PM   #26
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+1 I was told sunday that my positioning was simlilar...Its hard for me to change it right now for a few reasons, one my gut, and two, its hard to see while looking OVER my glasses....
Larry Pegram, I am telling you!!!!
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:13 PM   #28
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So I was browsing through Mike Novell's most excellent photo's of our August event at MSR-H, and came across this photo. I am not bashing the rider, I don't know who it is, but share your thoughts on this......

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my thoughts are...... whatever he wants if he feels good then so be it...
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:17 PM   #29
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my thoughts are...... whatever he wants if he feels good then so be it...
just looking at the picture, about 90+ % of riders would have lost it.. (He may have in the next few frames)

Its not the BEST way to ride, but it seems to work for some... , I ride like this, but not because I want to.
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Different strokes for different folks. There is no definition of proper body positioning per se.
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"There is no definition of proper body positioning per se." I keep hearing this statement over and over but why in the world would all the instructors in these track orgs are always preaching about getting off more when they critique the student?
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"There is no definition of proper body positioning per se." I keep hearing this statement over and over but why in the world would all the instructors in these track orgs are always preaching about getting off more when they critique the student?
Because we see that what they are doing isn't working for them as well as it should be. For me getting off the more has helped me become smoother and thus faster.
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dustin dominguez also rides like that.....and he is one of the top 5 experts in cmra.....smokin fast as well.

Dane Westby rides like that also, and he is also smokin fast (up there with Ty and Dominguez).

Go out and watch the experts race in the CMRA and I think you will see a lot of this, that is insane lean angle but not uncommon during a race.
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"There is no definition of proper body positioning per se." I keep hearing this statement over and over but why in the world would all the instructors in these track orgs are always preaching about getting off more when they critique the student?
some people can ride like that, but instructors show "proper" body positioning techniques so the rider can learn the basis on how a rider is to handle the bike around the corner.

"proper" body positioning requires a rider to ride loosely without adding weight to the front end and allowing the forks to do it's job. an unexperienced rider riding like that will most likely "A", lowside.....or "B" run out of lean angle
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:31 PM   #35
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just looking at the picture, about 90+ % of riders would have lost it.. (He may have in the next few frames)
This was the last picture I had before the lowside. I figured someone might notice the picture and wonder. Anyone know who that was? I can send them the rest of the pictures if they want 'em.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:23 PM   #36
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kinda looks like what happened to me! wish u had pics of mine! thats would be a story to tell! didn't i go down right in front of u mnovell?
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kinda looks like what happened to me! wish u had pics of mine! thats would be a story to tell! didn't i go down right in front of u mnovell?
I was over in turn 2 but I heard it happen and looked over and saw it. Didn't get any pictures though.
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He may be fast, but if he gets off the bike he will be faster. That is why they teach you that. The less you have to lean the bike, the faster you will be. I am trying to learn to get off the bike more and have been reading a lot about it. Think about it, the less you lean the bike means you don't have to bring it back up as far before you can get hard on the gas. Some people lean it too much and in the pic you can tell he is fighting the bike. Almost like when you see people trying to lean their bike more by leaning the opposite direction of the turn.
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"There is no definition of proper body positioning per se." I keep hearing this statement over and over but why in the world would all the instructors in these track orgs are always preaching about getting off more when they critique the student?
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