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Old 09-09-2008, 06:56 AM   #1
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Question WOW!!!! WHAT IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN?????

So I was browsing through Mike Novell's most excellent photo's of our August event at MSR-H, and came across this photo. I am not bashing the rider, I don't know who it is, but share your thoughts on this......

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Old 09-09-2008, 06:59 AM   #2
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He is about to pull an Arron Yates and use his knee and elbow to push the bike back up on the tires?
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:01 AM   #3
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wow..scraping frame sliders ..
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:05 AM   #4
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03-04RR with supersport sliders so those will not drag, fairings dragging on them is common.

he could have better body position and not lean so much, but it does not look like is beyond the point of no return, however that does not mean he will make it out.
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:10 AM   #5
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05 600rr dragging fairings

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Old 09-09-2008, 07:20 AM   #6
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Not that uncommon on these bikes. We have scraped up both sides of our 03RR lower at every race this season (so far). I generally deck (kiss) our rearsets too. I would not recommend that as that is a VERY sharp knife to play with and it can easily make you bleed.

Some folks prefer to hang off more and keep the bike upright...others (like me) love to 'put the bytch on her side'.

Good pics.
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:11 AM   #7
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....He's about to get smoked by Bill Drake??
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He might wash the front end or use his knee too push it back onto tire traction.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:33 AM   #9
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This is an educated guess: In one of the other threads ou mention there was only person who crashed and if not mistake was Dean Laden in the novice group. Thus I think he made it through.
Again this is an educated guess based on all information available, if I was just looking at the photo I would say he is about to pull an Aaron Yates.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:44 AM   #10
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....He's about to get smoked by Bill Drake??
Ahahaha....good one Buck!

I've actually followed this rider a couple times @ MSRH (or atleast this same bike).

One thing I noticed was he's fast - but he does NOT hang off enough, rather leans the bike unnecessarily. More lean from the body would help that - I'm sure I'd tell him that if i could keep up with him.

Its a beautiful bike!
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This is an educated guess: In one of the other threads ou mention there was only person who crashed and if not mistake was Dean Laden in the novice group. Thus I think he made it through.
Again this is an educated guess based on all information available, if I was just looking at the photo I would say he is about to pull an Aaron Yates.
According to the sticker this rider is in Advance group.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:46 AM   #12
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Guess I wasn't clear, my bad. That is why I think the rider in the photo made it through without falling but
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:03 AM   #13
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dragging toe!!! looks like he needs to get way more off the seat, heel closer in to the rear set, knee out, chest down and head outside near where the mirror should be. but what do i know, i just ride novice.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:06 AM   #14
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That’s a lot of lean plus I just enlarged that pic to be sure and yes his index finger is on the brake.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:09 AM   #15
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daing!
his body is in the complete opposite of where I've been told it should be........
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:10 AM   #16
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He rides similar to the late Nori Abe; a very front heavy approach. It doesn't work for everyone, obviously. There are better pictures of Abe out there that demonstrate this, but I couldn't find one off the cusp.

http://www.mvagusta.net/forum/attach...1&d=1191871223

One of the things this picture illustrates is that tires have tremendous grip all the way to the edge and beyond. Most people don't get near the limits of a tire's grip even when they have exceed their own personal limits.

This picture also tells me that this guy's bike is likely to be well sorted out suspension-wise for him. It'd be hard to get away with riding like this if the suspenstion was drastically too soft or too stiff.

Another thing it tells me is that everyone has thier own style. Find what works and go with it. Kenny Roberts wasn't the first guy to drag his knees, but he's the one that popularized it. He was called a fool by many of his peers...until he beat them.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:16 AM   #17
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He rides similar to the late Nori Abe; a very front heavy approach. It doesn't work for everyone, obviously. There are better pictures of Abe out there that demonstrate this, but I couldn't find one off the cusp.

http://www.mvagusta.net/forum/attach...1&d=1191871223

One of the things this picture illustrates is that tires have tremendous grip all the way to the edge and beyond. Most people don't get near the limits of a tire's grip even when they have exceed their own personal limits.

This picture also tells me that this guys bike is likely to be well sorted out suspension-wise for him. It'd be hard to get away with riding like this if the suspenstion was drastically too soft or too stiff.

Another thing it tells me is that everyone has thier own style. Find what works and go with it. Kenny Roberts wasn't the firt guy to drag his knees, but he's the one that popularized it. He was called a fool by many of his peers...until he beat them.

+1 I was told sunday that my positioning was simlilar...Its hard for me to change it right now for a few reasons, one my gut, and two, its hard to see while looking OVER my glasses....
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:25 AM   #18
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He's riding it like a flat tracker/MX'r. IMHO
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Wow...looks like dude is almost out of tire in this one! Knee saving FTW!
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