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Old 09-10-2008, 11:24 AM   #41
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I have tried playing with shutter and aperature and it works for fine tuning what you want, but out on the track, say in the corner, I don't have the ability to look at the picture on anything other than the LCD on the cam. So there isn't much tweaking you can do on the scene out there.
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Old 09-10-2008, 11:32 AM   #42
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I have tried playing with shutter and aperature and it works for fine tuning what you want, but out on the track, say in the corner, I don't have the ability to look at the picture on anything other than the LCD on the cam. So there isn't much tweaking you can do on the scene out there.
You don't need to tweak a lot. How much is the light really changing during the day which would make it necessary to change either speed or aperture? Not that often. In the end what works for one must not necessarily work for somebody else. I just like to be in control of the picture and not let the camera tell me what to do. But that's just me. The other thing is that built in meters often are way off so I use an external light meter.

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You don't need to tweak a lot. How much is the light really changing during the day which would make it necessary to change either speed or aperture? Not that often. In the end what works for one must not necessarily work for somebody else. I just like to be in control of the picture and not let the camera tell me what to do. But that's just me. The other thing is that built in meters often are way off so I use an external light meter.

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Well from day to day lighting will change, or from location to location. You would have to have a laptop out there on the corner to check and see how the picture came out. I am just saying that to really tweak the settings for your location/day/time of day/weather/ect is not practical in the corner. Also my pictures are free and don't cost money....so if they don't like it then they can eat it.
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:10 PM   #45
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Well from day to day lighting will change, or from location to location.

>>>Right. So?

You would have to have a laptop out there on the corner to check and see how the picture came out.

>>>LOL! I know a lot of photo pros and none of them carry laptops with them to the field.

I am just saying that to really tweak the settings for your location/day/time of day/weather/ect is not practical in the corner.

>>>LOL!

Also my pictures are free and don't cost money

>>>Is this the same thing as saying they are free? Oh...you already said that.

....so if they don't like it then they can eat it.

>>>Aw, man, that's no attitude to have if you want to improve your product.
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where are the panning shots , gotta make them look like they are going real fast

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Well from day to day lighting will change, or from location to location.

>>>Right. So?

You would have to have a laptop out there on the corner to check and see how the picture came out.

>>>LOL! I know a lot of photo pros and none of them carry laptops with them to the field.

I am just saying that to really tweak the settings for your location/day/time of day/weather/ect is not practical in the corner.

>>>LOL!

Also my pictures are free and don't cost money

>>>Is this the same thing as saying they are free? Oh...you already said that.

....so if they don't like it then they can eat it.

>>>Aw, man, that's no attitude to have if you want to improve your product.
Don't see why you are attacking what I am saying. I simply said sports mode is the best for simplicity out in the corner. I take pics all the time in the corner on sports mode and they come out great. And that's just the thing, it's not a product, its me, not a professional photographer, I am just taking pics and kind enough to share them. If people don't like em I'll stop taking 500+ pics I usually take at track days and stop uploading em.
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I am just saying that to really tweak the settings for your location/day/time of day/weather/ect is not practical in the corner. Also my pictures are free and don't cost money....so if they don't like it then they can eat it.
Right, that's why I said that what works for one person, doesn't work for the other. Your photos looked good and that's what counts. I think the discussion started about different shots though that were out of focus or overexposed or whatever. I do professional commercial and fashion photography and just wanted to offer some advise (even in person if you grab me at one of the track days) on how to work a camera. That's just it. Let's not get into attitudes here or elsewhere.

I liked the shots from you of me toying around the track and appreciate you uploading them (especially to a Mac compatible site LOL ).

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werd. no hard feelings. i let my ol lady (the camera geek) figure all that chit out. I just like taking the pics.

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I used that same camera and lens for these pictures. Seems like no matter what I do, it just doesn't look real crisp.
It's not the camera, it's the glass (or plastic ) in front of it. That's where you need to invest and in a proper workflow after the shooting.

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It's not the camera, it's the glass (or plastic ) in front of it. That's where you need to invest and in a proper workflow after the shooting.

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+1 usually the stock lenses suck big time. I bought a cheaper eos lens thats a 75-300 and its way better than the 18-55 that came with it.
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+1 usually the stock lenses suck big time. I bought a cheaper eos lens thats a 75-300 and its way better than the 18-55 that came with it.
Nah .. if you buy zoom lenses buy shorter ranges. The larger the range the worse the quality. If you can lug them all around buy primes.

I have in my bag: 17-40L, 24-70L, 70-200L and the 50/1.8 which for it's price is an awesome lens. Everything else I need, I rent. For the track I wouldn't go with much under 400mm except for the one shot I wanna do where I would
position the camera right next to the curb with the 17mm ..

But yes, the kit lenses usually suck big time.


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mike is an L lens baller nice

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Well not to brag just to show that actually my lenses are worth more than my bodies. People get so drawn into megapixels and camera features and forget about the most important part - the vision

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I was shooting with an Olympus E-20P and an Olympus 3x telephoto. Both seem to be pretty nice and cost a pretty penny back when they first came out. Is there any way to get my pictures to look anywhere close to as vivid as yours, Mike? IS there postwork done to them?
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I was shooting with an Olympus E-20P and an Olympus 3x telephoto. Both seem to be pretty nice and cost a pretty penny back when they first came out. Is there any way to get my pictures to look anywhere close to as vivid as yours, Mike? IS there postwork done to them?
I don't think you want to know how much the lens he was shooting with was worth.
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