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Old 08-28-2008, 03:58 PM   #101
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Cause my eyeballs, they readed it to my brain.
Pretty sure I wasn't dreaming that day???
Yeah, dude. That lane is just for looks. Never supposed to use it for any reason AT ALL.
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Old 08-28-2008, 04:10 PM   #102
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and i'll bet your wrong. if a car is disabled yes. but if it's bumper to bumper traffic no.

lane splitting nor riding the emergancy lane is NOT legal in TX , nowhere nohow.
Agreed, but that's not what I said.
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so exactly what are you saying? spell it out for us dumb folk.
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I said pass, not continually pass (Riding), nor split lanes and the such.
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what makes it even legal to pass 1 car?
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but if it's a line of stopped cars that you're passing, you're having to continually pass (riding)
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but if it's a line of stopped cars that you're passing, you're having to continually pass (riding)
I didn't write it I just read it. Sure there has been all kinds all of ammendments to it by angry whiners.
As I'm pondering? It may only apply to rural roads. Well you know how us folk from the country like to do things.
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normally on rural roads the slow car pulls over into the emer. lane, and faster car goes by.
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Was this an emergency?
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Funny how you overlooked the discrepancy in the officer's action. You don't see a problem with an officer yelling at and calling a citizen a 'punk' because he wanted to pass a couple of cars? Don't forget, citizens make the laws. Police officers enforce them. It's not a personal attack on the officer when someone breaks the law so there's no need to insult someone when they do so. In response to the comment in bold print above, it's not like the guy passed 10 cars doing a 100mph wheelie. So let's keep it all relative.

Edit: Please mind the "you people" comments. You don't know enough people here to classify any of us into groups.
First off...im sorry but i fail to understand why it is such a big deal that the officer called someone a punk?? I think you may be a little sensitive. i have called many people many things that are alot worse...as i am sure you have. understand i was not there and i do not know what exactly was said...so therefore how can i cast judgement on this officer for saying anything...that is the reason i did not make a big fuss about any namecalling that might have gone on...
Personal attack....common, thats a little over the top

second of all..."you people"/....you seem a little sensitive...
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Old 08-28-2008, 05:58 PM   #111
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FYI...

Texas Transp. Code

545.421. FLEEING OR ATTEMPTING TO ELUDE POLICE
OFFICER; OFFENSE. (a) A person commits an offense if the person
operates a motor vehicle and wilfully fails or refuses to bring the
vehicle to a stop or flees, or attempts to elude, a pursuing police
vehicle when given a visual or audible signal to bring the vehicle
to a stop.
(b) A signal under this section that is given by a police
officer pursuing a vehicle may be by hand, voice, emergency light,
or siren. The officer giving the signal must be in uniform and
prominently display the officer's badge of office. The officer's
vehicle must be appropriately marked as an official police vehicle
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SB, you are correct that this is exactly what the law states...however...i have seen in many cases that involve an officer in an unmarked patrol car wearing a uniform...
The DA has taken charges of felony evading simply becuase the officer was in uniform and the vehicle had emergency police equipement on it...
Just because the law says something does not make it black and white....
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Old 08-28-2008, 06:07 PM   #112
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You still haven't explained yourself. How do you expect the rider to follow traffic laws but do not expect the officer to follow HPD policy (both are 'rules', no)? There's an imbalance there. Explain your position, Mr. Sensible. Stop trying to change the subject.
Can you explain this post to me??? Because how is the officer not following HPD policy...
If the officer wants to pull you over and at you and then release you..he has broken no policy or law...he is using his own discretion which completely allowed by state law...just because you may not like it does not make it against policy
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Old 08-28-2008, 06:09 PM   #113
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"You don't pass anyone in the HOV lane, do you understand me, punk!?"

^ This is the abuse.





seems to me like you may have had a bad experience with a police officer at one time or another...sorry bro...

this is not abuse! lol....
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Rewind back 20 posts ....

Pull the guy over and give him a ticket for passing in the HOV. End of story.
There is no such policy...state law gives officers the right to use their discretion in any scenerio as well as HPD policy...im sorry bro, but after reading all your posts...you have no clue what you are talking about...you seem to be arguing just for the sake of arguing.
If you want to come hang out one day i will be more than happy to let you sit down and look over all my HPD General orders..they are about 1000 pages long and growing everyweek. (constantly updated)
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Just to clarify I did NOT flee the scene. I did NOT pass the who-ever-the-****-he-thinks-he-is after the confrontation. I simply got off at the exit which was, luckily, a few hundred feet ahead.

My question was however answered - if the car is NOT marked as a police vehicle, and this clearly was not (I mean, what kind of self-bloated hangs multiple handcuffs right by the window?) you do not have to pull over.

And you can always argue that the weather that was gaining on me was an emergency situation.

But in all honesty, we entrust the police to do their job. I have nothing against any officer as I am sure, at one point in their service they will be putting their lives at risk for the safety of others. But please, use some common sense, not my fault you drive a hemi v8 that gets stuck in traffic.
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There is no such policy...state law gives officers the right to use their discretion in any scenerio as well as HPD policy..

In the end the purpose of the police force is to protect and serve. Being silly in your personal vehicle or writing lane-splitting tickets does not fall into either category - its just a ego-powered contraption to bring in revenue.


Just to clarify I did NOT flee the scene. I did NOT pass the who-ever-the-****-he-thinks-he-is after the confrontation. I simply got off at the exit which was, luckily, a few hundred feet ahead.

My question was however answered - if the car is NOT marked as a police vehicle, and this clearly was not (I mean, what kind of self-bloated hangs multiple handcuffs right by the window?) you do not have to pull over.

And you can always argue that the weather that was gaining on me was an emergency situation.

But in all honesty, we entrust the police to do their job. I have nothing against any officer as I am sure, at one point in their service they will be putting their lives at risk for the safety of others. But please, use some common sense, not my fault you drive a hemi v8 that gets stuck in traffic.

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In the end the purpose of the police force is to protect and serve. Being silly in your personal vehicle or writing lane-splitting tickets does not fall into either category - its just a ego-powered contraption to bring in revenue.


Just to clarify I did NOT flee the scene. I did NOT pass the who-ever-the-****-he-thinks-he-is after the confrontation. I simply got off at the exit which was, luckily, a few hundred feet ahead.

My question was however answered - if the car is NOT marked as a police vehicle, and this clearly was not (I mean, what kind of self-bloated hangs multiple handcuffs right by the window?) you do not have to pull over.

And you can always argue that the weather that was gaining on me was an emergency situation.

But in all honesty, we entrust the police to do their job. I have nothing against any officer as I am sure, at one point in their service they will be putting their lives at risk for the safety of others. But please, use some common sense, not my fault you drive a hemi v8 that gets stuck in traffic.




Personally i think that it is not a good idea for any officers to police off duty...in fact it is complete stupidity...you have no back up...no radio...nothing.
However, a officer can not turn their back on seriouse matters. This seems not to have been even worth rolling down the window over if it was me...
I dont even make it a habbit of stopping cars while i am on duty...lol

after reading your post though...this guy does not even sound like a cop..i had the idea for some reason by your first post that you thought that he was...but just because he had cuffs hanging in his rear view does not make him a cop...there are a ton of people that own cuffs and i have seen civilians put them in their car thinking they are cooler for it.
I thought you had saw a official police uniform or something...

This guy could have been just another civillian in a uniform (security gaurd police wannabe....

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normally on rural roads the slow car pulls over into the emer. lane, and faster car goes by.
Your not getting it. Non moving traffic with space to move around the knotheads unable to grasp the concept of keeping the flow of traffic.
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I thought you had saw the uniform or something...
He was wearing some kind of uniform. I am pretty near-sighted and could not make out the emblems.
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police are never "off duty" - as long as they are registered as law enforcement officers with the state they can enforce the laws and/or issue a ticket at any time of the day or night whether they are "on the clock" or not and whether or not they are in uniform or not.
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