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Old 08-07-2008, 10:28 AM   #21
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gotta have bowling ball between your legs for this kind of timing on street tires.
Don't forget, Diablo Corsa 3s (street tire) are the spec race tire for Euroean Superstock.
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These are the BT002 Ride Smart, not really a true street tire. A nice step below a race tire, but a definate step up from true street tires.
That's for sure.
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These are the BT002 Ride Smart, not really a true street tire. A nice step below a race tire, but a definate step up from true street tires.
cheaper than race rubber and do these need warmers still?
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:38 AM   #24
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Not me. Last year at TWS (Texas World Speedway) Brandon was running John's (kawi jm) 600rr w/ BT002RS tires and running between 1:52 & 1:55 if memory serves me.

But breaking the 2:00 on street tires is entirely feasible and safe IMO.

But like I said and everyone here will agree, it's all about confidence. You need to be on a tire that you have confidence in.

A person who is confident in the set-up of their bike even w/ street tires will most likely run quicker laps than a person who is not confident in the set-up of their bike even if it has race tires. This statement is true for most intermediate level riders.
How much do you weigh? And a 1:55 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) is not intermediate dude that's advanced.
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Dang dude it is definetely time. Just check out John's deal on the warmers and if you want buy take off for a while. They are only about a $100 (buy from a racer that only uses them for a couple of sprints and they are sticky and you will have sooo much more confidence and with warmers you can haul on the first lap. How much you weigh?
225 and slowly trimming away
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cheaper than race rubber and do these need warmers still?
tires warmers are only to keep it hot and ready and reduce the cold wear/tear of tires. If you don't have it, you will required to do a couple of laps to bring it to temp (operating temp/condition) to have maximum grip. If you have a race tires and you don't go as fast that tire is not good for you either.
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cheaper than race rubber and do these need warmers still?
No, they work fine w/o warmers. You can use warmers with them, if you have them. They take about a lap to warm up.
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Don't forget, Diablo Corsa 3s (street tire) are the spec race tire for Euroean Superstock.
I believe the Spec tire is the Supercorsa Pro
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Can somebody comment on a Motorsport Ranch Cresson time (the short course) that's pushing it for street tires?

I know for sure that there's a LOT more I can be doing as a rider. I'm just looking for a goal to shoot for, as motivation.
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I believe the Spec tire is the Supercorsa Pro
, type-o. I meant European Supersport. (the 600 class below World Supersport)

Supercorsa Pro is spec for WSBX Supersport and Supertock.
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How much do you weigh? And a 1:55 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) is not intermediate dude that's advanced.
The"intermediate" statement was about the confidence in set up. Nothing to do w/ lap times. The reason I said that was that probably most "experts" could go fater on race tires than street regardless of their confidence in the set up.
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:37 PM   #32
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Think it was covered well.
I would have said when your pinching seat cushion buttons in your seat for pushing it and not getting any grip.
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Can somebody comment on a Motorsport Ranch Cresson time (the short course) that's pushing it for street tires?

I know for sure that there's a LOT more I can be doing as a rider. I'm just looking for a goal to shoot for, as motivation.
mid 1:30's to 40's
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Old 08-07-2008, 04:09 PM   #34
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Oh.
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I'm half proud, half scared. My single best lap is 1:33.5xx on a showroom stock 600RR with OEM Dunlop Qualifiers.
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Oh.
Oh my.
I'm half proud, half scared. My single best lap is 1:33.5xx on a showroom stock 600RR with OEM Dunlop Qualifiers.
at MSRC 1.7mile? that's a decent time for a stocker on street rubber.

you are ready to upgrade to race tires when you are no longer confident in your street tires, you plan to keep your bike track only, or you just want to know that if hits the fan....you can't blame the tires.
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Yeah, MSRC 1.7 CCW.

I was actually under the impression that most of the "race tires" (that is, NOT slicks, but rather a DOT r-compound like Diable Supercorsa) can do double-duty as a light-duty street tire between trackdays...?
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I still ride the street a lot, almost everyday but I have a No-Mar on the way. I got tired of paying the stealerships around Nacogdoches $80 to change 2 tires. Changing them back and forth wouldn't be a prob.

I'm just not sure about how necessary warmers are and if it would be a waste of money to switch to a DOT race tire.

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Even if you're not fast enough to "need" full-on race tires, they do offer an extra degree of confidence and sticky insurance. Or if you've got the skills (like Alonzo AKA Dr. Gonzo) you can still smoke people all while running a street tire like the Corsa III's or the 002RS's.

You will need warmers to run race tires. Tires heat up and cool down between sessions and breaks, and that will kill a race tire (street tires are designed to withstand the hot/cool/hot/cool cycles).
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dumb question.

what is a power race classified as?
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dumb question.

what is a power race classified as?
Dot race.
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thought so.. soooo it would benefit to have warmers?
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