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Old 08-05-2008, 02:37 PM   #1
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Powercommander 3 dynotuning??

I have been looking at the PC3 since I bought my new bike, and I'm about to pull the trigger and buy it.

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Is it worth it if I don't dyno-tune it for a custom map?? what if I just upload a map from www.powercommander.com, how much am I going to gain??

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Peak H.P. you will gain very little either way.Driveability and throttle reponce will be better with the PC3 and a dyno tune.The internet maps will get you very close
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on a slip on, I wouldn't worry about it
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I finally bought a Yosh pipe for mine 2 weeks ago.It didnt really help much!

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on a slip on, I wouldn't worry about it
I'd definitely worry about it. If you're gonna pc, you may as well tune the thing. Having your bike feel like an electric motor will make you wet your panties, hooli.
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Do you guys have experience w a 600/slip on and power commander? I hadn't noticed anything over throttle response with the ones I've ridden. Just saying... 2-300 for a PCMIII, then a custom map 25+ or a dyno day 2-300 for a slip on... I'd wait till there was something to tune for.
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I don't think you'd "need" the PCIII with just a slip-on. Then on top of that I don't see the need to buy a PCIII unless you're going to get it custom tuned to fit your bike and your mods at that time. I think with a full akra system, BMC filters, and opened up intake I got 4hp and 3tq over the DJ website tune for those mods with a custom dyno map on a 1000.

I agree that power increase would be minimal at best with only a slip-on and even a custom dyno map to your bike.



However, I am probably the last one on this forum to really justify needs for a lot of bike mods.
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PCIII with the downloaded maps is usually not very efficient.

PCIII with dyno tuning is very effective, and some real hp (especially in newer bikes) can be found.

PCIII with a full exhaust and dyno tuning can realize some very real hp gains.

Now, are you gonna realize it on the street? Probably not. Do you need it for street riding? Probably not. The hp gains could be a couple of hp or more, depending on your tuner and what parts you get.

Truth be told, you would probably do best just getting a slip-on muffler and be done with it.
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i gained like 14 hp from my tune (lol it was crazy how much i really gained ask patrick) i had pat a Motorcycles Unlimited tune it!
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Do you guys have experience w a 600/slip on and power commander? I hadn't noticed anything over throttle response with the ones I've ridden. Just saying... 2-300 for a PCMIII, then a custom map 25+ or a dyno day 2-300 for a slip on... I'd wait till there was something to tune for.
driveability is definitely "something to tune for"

Why does everyone assume that HP is the only positive gain from a custom tune?
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High-horsepower tunes may not be what most people want anyways; I surely am not looking to stress my bike more then it needs. I bought the power commander to protect my engine from the mods I installed. By counteracting changes the efficiency and HP has been increased. The loss of weight was noticeable before the PCM and tune(ya I rode a while w/o the PCM... till the header started turning blue on the downpipes)
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driveability is definitely "something to tune for"

Why does everyone assume that HP is the only positive gain from a custom tune?
HP is subjective. I have Andy tune my bike for me where I use it most (track riding). If I rode on the street, I'd probably have it tuned differently.

Tuning for horsepower includes mapping for different "curves", depending on your riding.
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i put the pc3 on the softail , when i changed the pipes and the air intake, and i just used the map form dynojet and it made a big diff for me. i rezeroed the throttle pos and bam,

the tech at republic said if i just go with the map they offer online it would be 95 percent perfect and well , i think it is!
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Well all i have is a slip on, so i guess this is not a great investment
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do you wanna see my chart? to see how much it really modifies it? I will screen shoot it, photobucket and post for you , onlyif you're really interested...

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