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Old 08-03-2008, 09:12 PM   #1
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Looking for some advice from track experienced riders. Signed up for my first track day with RideSmart TWS (Texas World Speedway) (Level 1 of course) in September.... I ride a KTM 690 Duke http://www.ktm.com/690-Duke.47.0.html , basically SuperMoto type setup, light, quick not too fast, super fun to ride, handles great, stops on a dime.... have done the MSF course etc. logged about 1500 miles on the bike so far, very comfortable riding, raced bikes as a kid...... question(s) 1. for a "virgin" is RideSmart as good or better than Texas Track Days, Lone Star, etc. looking for good instructors, improving skills, fun.... 2. will my bike be too slow to keep up? any advice / feedback would be appreciated
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:28 PM   #2
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you should attend the LMS noob day at MSRHouston 9/13. Instructor Larry Meyers is one of the best motard guys around. Check out www.lmstrackdays.com
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Check them all out.

One track day can only be better than the others only by one's opinion.
In my (bias) opinion Texas Track Days has a lot to offer new track riders:

1. 3 stundents to 1 instructor in the Novice group (4 to 1 at most)
2. Class room insturction
3. Smaller groups than other track day associations
4. Corner workers are provided at every track day
5. Great friendly atmosphere

These are just few reasons and I'm sure there are more.

You be the judge, check them all out if you get a chance.
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:53 PM   #4
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LMS's noobday is a great way to introduce yourself to the track. our paddocks/pit area is not overly crowded, so it's not very hard to find good friends.

you should be able to find great instruction from any of the trackday organizations.
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:06 PM   #5
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you should attend the LMS noob day at MSRHouston 9/13. Instructor Larry Meyers is one of the best motard guys around. Check out www.lmstrackdays.com
That's what I was thinkinking. He was sick ridin' at the last hill race!
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:11 PM   #6
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don't worry about being slow ... I ride a ninja 250 at the track and no one's kicked me out yet.

I've done both LMS and TTD ... either way, you'll have fun and be hooked for life.
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Your bike will only be too slow if you ride it too slow, but it sounds like you'll do just fine. You have to be REALLY slow to get black flagged. Last time I corner worked with Ride Smart two riders were black flagged and one was asked to come back once he/she gained more riding experience. The rider was extremely slow and couldn't even keep up with the round robin group(parade lap pace). I wouldn't worry about which trackday organization just don't be shy if you have questions. Have fun out there!
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Longhorn's noob day is a great idea! It will be all novices with plenty of instruction.
You're bike is NOT too slow. Remember this is a trackday not a race.
Try to think of it this way... Doing trackdays is not a sport, it's a hobby.

TWS (Texas World Speedway) is an awesome track but it can be a little intimidating. Two pieces of unsolicited advice...
Bring more drinks than you think you will need and then drink them all.
Remember to breathe. (seriously it can be that intense)
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Old 08-03-2008, 11:43 PM   #9
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take a few bananas (you'll need the potassium) and always, the first session take it slow, learn the track, speed will come naturally. and don't try to learn the correct line too fast, take your time, the riders behind you are responsible for passing you safely. and always, have fun..track is so addicting. If in doubt, ask, soemthing i have learned is that most everybody will always lend you a hand or give advice.
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:38 AM   #10
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Seat time, doesn’t matter where you get it.
Be careful and ride your own pace.
There is just as much bad information, as there is good.
Tires and track days are the best way to spend your money.
Watch some Motard track video on the .net before you jump in, riding style is not traditional.
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For your bike an event at GSS near Galveston would probably be alot more fun and less stressful on you and your bike than TWS (Texas World Speedway).
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Texas Track Days will be doing a motard session at Grandsport on either Sept. 12th or 13th. That would be a great track and you would get to ride with several other fellow motard boys. :
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the only person you have to keep up with is yourself! no need to try pushing your limits to keep up with the guy that just blew your plastics off. your bikes speed will do just fine on any track that you plan on riding, on some it'll do better than others but any track will be perfect to ride on no matter what you're riding.

almost every t/d org. offers the same basic things, i guess it's just a matter of opinion on who is (truly) the best org. you'll find that most people on here do track days with there friends.
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Old 08-04-2008, 12:53 PM   #15
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Old 08-04-2008, 01:03 PM   #16
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All the track orgs on here are great. It hard to differientiate them apart except pricing. All have skilled instructors that could teach you something if you come with an open mind.
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Like everybody said. Ride at your own pace and just pick the track org. that fits your schedule. I’ve road Longhorn, TDD and Ridesmart. Haven’t got a chance to ride Lonestar yet, but here they are great to. For a noob day I would say Longhorn at MSRH is the best. Very small class with lots of instruction. It’s laid back to. You don’t feel so rushed to get your gear on and go out with the 30 min sessions.
I usually ride with Ridesmart when I go to TWS (Texas World Speedway) since they are the cheapest and they have good instructors for the most part. I’ve had good and bad luck with there instructors, but mostly good. My buddy was complaining our last time out though about the lack of instructor guidence. It’s a shame to because he was stoked when he found out he was being paired up to have a popular racer (I want mention names) as an instructor on level 2, but the instructor was pretty much a no show on the track and when it was time to pare up with the instructor before going out he would disappear. He ended up switching to a different instructor. Like I said some instructors are good and some not as good at Ridesmart in my opinion and experiences with them. But with that said I still attend with them. They still do a lot of things right out there. Only major complaint with Ridsmart is the photographer sucks! Wish they would get a better one out there.
Also can’t forget about TDD. They are great to ride with to. I like there structure and small groups and they offer the class room instruction with Novice classes and on track instruction and pit advice for intermediate and advance. Really a good balance of instruction. They also feed you.
My favorite is still Longhorn though with the 30 min sessions and great instructors, but like I said pick an org that fits your schedule and start making your own judgments. Just keep an open mind and check the ego at the gate oh and have fun. Welcome to the addiction!
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Just the one at TWS (Texas World Speedway). I will have to ask Dave about another option at TWS (Texas World Speedway). Hart Photography that does Cresson & Eagles Canyon is great.
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Just the one at TWS (Texas World Speedway). I will have to ask Dave about another option at TWS (Texas World Speedway). Hart Photography that does Cresson & Eagles Canyon is great.
yeah, don't blame Ridesmart for the photographer at TWS (Texas World Speedway) (Doug Pawlak with Digital Photo Cafe)....i think he's just the photographer guy that TWS (Texas World Speedway) assigns, because he's at all TWS (Texas World Speedway) trackday events (doesn't matter which org is out there)

he's not only expensive, but he lacks customer service....which is the most important part of business. oh yeah, he SUCKS too
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