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Old 08-01-2008, 10:40 AM   #1
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:52 AM   #2
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One dead in Snetterton three-bike crash
KATHRYN CROSS

01 August 2008 16:49


A motorcyclist has died following a three-bike smash on the Snetterton race track.

The man, who has not been named, died at the scene after taking part in a track day event this morningin which individuals can pay to ride their own machines around the two-mile circuit.

Police confirmed that the accident happened at 9.45am and said three riders were involved. The East Anglian air ambulance was called and conveyed one man suffering wrist, neck and back injuries to the Norfolk & Norwich University Hospital. A third man was treated for minor injuries at the scene by paramedics.

Motorsport Vision, which owns five major racetracks in the UK including Snetterton and Brands Hatch, has issued a statement saying: “We regret to report that an accident took place this morning at the track. Despite receiving immediate medical care at the scene he sadly succumbed to his injuries.

“The circumstances of the incident are currently being investigated and we are assisting with the relevant authorities. Everyone at MSV would like to extend their deepest condolences to the rider's family and friends.”

The company was not releasing any further information until next of kin were informed.

The timing of the accident suggests it happened during a novice group session.

Track days are run by Hottrax Ltd who provide full instructions to all participants including safety information. Before any rider takes to the track they also listen to a full safety briefing with the novice group getting a further, more detailed briefing and introduction to the instructors once the intermediate and advanced groups are preparing for their sessions.

Fully qualified paramedics and trained marshals are in attendance at every track day event.
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"The timing of the accident suggests it happened during a novice group session."

Wow. wonder what happened!?!?
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Old 08-01-2008, 02:17 PM   #7
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A lot of talk on this board saying how much safer the track is than the street. I see several folks from this site wrecking at the track with pretty bad injuries. Granted, the street has more obstacles and isn't as "forgiving" but to "Take it to the track" is dangerous too.
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RIP.

A lot of talk on this board saying how much safer the track is than the street. I see several folks from this site wrecking at the track with pretty bad injuries. Granted, the street has more obstacles and isn't as "forgiving" but to "Take it to the track" is dangerous too.
sure its dangerous, but Ill take my chances wrecking at 100+ mph on the track over the street, and I think you can understand why.


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btw I'm sure there are more, but this is only the 2nd death Ive heard of, first was at TWS (Texas World Speedway) but measures were taken by LSTD and Ride Smart along with TWS (Texas World Speedway) to alleviate the problem. (a wall)
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sure its dangerous, but Ill take my chances wrecking at 100+ mph on the track over the street, and I think you can understand why.


RIP


btw I'm sure there are more, but this is only the 2nd death Ive heard of, first was at TWS (Texas World Speedway) but measures were taken by LSTD and Ride Smart along with TWS (Texas World Speedway) to alleviate the problem. (a wall)
Plus it's cheaper than bondsman bailing out and court and attorneys cost.

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sure its dangerous, but Ill take my chances wrecking at 100+ mph on the track over the street, and I think you can understand why.


RIP


btw I'm sure there are more, but this is only the 2nd death Ive heard of, first was at TWS (Texas World Speedway) but measures were taken by LSTD and Ride Smart along with TWS (Texas World Speedway) to alleviate the problem. (a wall)
I don't condone doing 100+ on the streets. I think riders can help prevent chances of a wreck on the street by riding responsibly based on the environment. I agree though. More things need to be taken into account on the street: road condition, cars, etc.
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Plus it's cheaper than bondsman bailing out and court and attorneys cost.

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I agree. You wanna run 100+, the track is where it's legal.
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sure its dangerous, but Ill take my chances wrecking at 100+ mph on the track over the street, and I think you can understand why.


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btw I'm sure there are more, but this is only the 2nd death Ive heard of, first was at TWS (Texas World Speedway) but measures were taken by LSTD and Ride Smart along with TWS (Texas World Speedway) to alleviate the problem. (a wall)
been about 12 here over the years, maybe more
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actually, Id really like to know just how many trackday deaths..not racing.

here in the past 10 years?
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+1...People would rather die doing something they love then suffering away in a hospital bed or nursing home.
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Anybody who says that the track is "safe" is an idiot. Anybody who says that riding on the track is safer than riding on the street is a genius when you put it in to perspective and compare riding styles.

Track
-no "old ladies" not paying attention to cut in front of you or hit you
-no police to write you tickets for speeding
-no (or extremely limited by comparison) obstacles to run in to if you make a mistake or crash
-Emergency Medical on standby within a few minutes or seconds of an incident
-safety briefings and meetings

Street
-exactly the opposite of the above mentioned items



Come on guys, let's not deteriorate an article about an unfortunate death by having a bunch of statements trying to say that riding at your (or near) limits on the street is by any stretch "safer" than doing that at a track.

If everyone who rode on the street didn't pull stunts, break traffic laws, or speed like their hair was on fire whenever they get on a freeway, and motorcycles were used strictly to commute without breaking any laws; MAYBE you could make a jump to say that riding on the street was at least "almost" as safe as riding on the track.

RIP to the rider who died.

Not to correct you Chris, but there were a LOT more folks than us out there making this happen. TWS (Texas World Speedway)' wall was removed by a whole lot of folks, headed up by some very big movers in the motorcycle sport, and those folks didn't do it for recognition. The CMRA's membership was a HUGE part in this, and the project was not lead by those that are advertising themselves as major players. The real major players quietly worked this event without much recognition, 'cause that's the type of people they are.
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its great those people saw a peoblem that needed to be fixed and jumped in and made it happen
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its great those people saw a peoblem that needed to be fixed and jumped in and made it happen
Amen, I know I feel better going through that turn now.

It's bad that some folks used it as an advertising ploy, but whateryagonnado...

For the record, there have been very, very few deaths on tracks when averaged out over time. In our region, it may be .01/ year over the past 20 years? I can think of 3 that were incidents that occurred at a track, either in practice or while racing in the past 10 years in our region. Two of which had some extenuating circumstances that lead to death that may have been circumvented if otherwise addressed.

It's hard to remember any other than those in the past 20 or so though.
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It's hard to remember any other than those in the past 20 or so though.


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Talking about turn 8 at TWS (Texas World Speedway)?
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