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Old 07-30-2008, 08:37 AM   #1
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Moriwaki debuts first 600GP prototype at Suzuka

Moriwaki 600GP prototype 1

The ink’s not even dry yet on Dorna’s ruling that 250GP will turn into a class for 600cc four-strokes in 2011, but Moriwaki has rolled out a prototype of what it thinks a 600GP competitor should look like. Unlike KTM or Aprillia, who still insist they won’t participate in the new class, Moriwaki is considering running a factory team and brought the prototype to display at the Suzuka 8 Hours as a statement of intent. Click through for details on the bike.

Moriwaki 600GP prototype

Moriwaki’s 600GP prototype use a CBR600RR engine housed in a bespoke tubular steel chassis that allows the fitment of a much longer, MotoGP-style swingarm. Also present is GP-spec Íhlins suspension and a neat GP-style exhaust. The rest of the machine is fairly rough, running 250GP bodywork and stock CBR clocks for instance. This is to be expected, Dorna hasn’t finalized rules for the new class yet and it’s not even known if engines will be production or prototype-spec. Rather, this appears to be a working concept from Moriwaki, brought out to gauge interest and sponsorship opportunities should they decide to enter the series.

It’ll be interesting to see what becomes of the two-year new team hiatus idea that’s been thrown around. Intended to allow existing teams time to adapt to such a drastic change in racing formulas without facing competition from new players able to capitalize on existing four-stroke knowledge, it could mean that Moriwaki would have to wait until 2013 to enter the series. Comprehensive rules for 600GP are expected to be agreed upon later this year.


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pretty neat. hope everything works for them and the new GP class.
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so if they don't use a prototype engine set up in these, whats to make them different from any other SS racing org? why would they need the low level GP status racing?

they have always been unique, why not stay that way.
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so if they don't use a prototype engine set up in these, whats to make them different from any other SS racing org? why would they need the low level GP status racing?

they have always been unique, why not stay that way.
Is there an American 600SS series that allows Ohlins gas forks, custom fabricated swinging arms, Brembo monoblock calipers etc????
I ask because I know there isn't in Europe but I'm not sure about the US.
Those alone would make these machines pretty special IMO.
Add a MotoGP derived electronics package, slicks and Full Supersport Spec engines plus say lightened components and I think you have a worthy successor.
Just my 2 cents.
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as far as i know, we don't have those jewelry pieces here but, it's the engine i'm more concerned with.
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Interesting...

I guess good bye to 2 smokes in the future :(
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as far as i know, we don't have those jewelry pieces here but, it's the engine i'm more concerned with.
my bad, I just re-read your original comment.

I hope they keep the engine tune specs pretty similar to WSS.
Keep the costs down (relatively) so we can have full grids.
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I guess good bye to 2 smokes in the future :(
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Is there an American 600SS series that allows Ohlins gas forks, custom fabricated swinging arms, Brembo monoblock calipers etc????
I ask because I know there isn't in Europe but I'm not sure about the US.
Those alone would make these machines pretty special IMO.
Add a MotoGP derived electronics package, slicks and Full Supersport Spec engines plus say lightened components and I think you have a worthy successor.
Just my 2 cents.
Yes, it is called Formula Extreme. They are highly modified 600 supersports. Engine bore & stoke modifications, brake mods (Master Cylinder, Calipers & lines), Custom fabricated frame sections & swingarms, Full suspension modifications.

It really is a no holds barred class. The bikes are crazy fast & very expensive. I've heard rumor of the Hondas making more than 150 hp at the rear wheel.
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Yes, it is called Formula Extreme. They are highly modified 600 supersports. Engine bore & stoke modifications, brake mods (Master Cylinder, Calipers & lines), Custom fabricated frame sections & swingarms, Full suspension modifications.

It really is a no holds barred class. The bikes are crazy fast & very expensive. I've heard rumor of the Hondas making more than 150 hp at the rear wheel.
Sounds fantastic,
I've been googling it abit because to the best of my knowledge we don't get any coverage of it over here.
Just look at this thing
sweeter than sweet
wish I could find the Yamaha R6 entry hint hint
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#481 is Ryan Andrews, he is from Texas, and came out of our regional club the CMRA. Hella fast kid.
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#481 is Ryan Andrews, he is from Texas, and came out of our regional club the CMRA. Hella fast kid.
Very fast and very polite racer. He instructs for RideSmart on occasion and is usually helping Ty Howard in level 3. Very nice guy indeed.

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They need a relevant bike config, 250's? I like that plan.
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wish I could find the Yamaha R6 entry hint hint

yamaha doesnt have a factory bike in fx except for in the daytona 200
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yamaha doesnt have a factory bike in fx except for in the daytona 200
I've searched for pictures for awhile now, nothing
that explains it.
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They need a relevant bike config, 250's? I like that plan.
While I agree, two strokes might come back. Have you seen the RD350 prototype that yamaha has been showing around?

Also its a complete shame that the 250cc class winners can just about be chosen on a whim by aprilia machinists.
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While I agree, two strokes might come back. Have you seen the RD350 prototype that yamaha has been showing around?

Also its a complete shame that the 250cc class winners can just about be chosen on a whim by aprilia machinists.
perhaps in the past but Gilera and KTM are comfortably running 1st and 2nd right now, so I reckon they've pretty much bridged the gap to Aprilia.
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