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Old 07-29-2008, 05:57 PM   #1
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Time for the Triumph Upgrade

Aight so chime in here where you want, this is the upgrade list for the daytona 675 out to Patrick at Motorcycles Unlimited! Freaking can't wait!

1. STM Slipper Clutch
2. Sharkskinz plastics (gonna get Tom's to paint em)
3. Sato Rear Sets
4. Zard Titanium Exhaust (http://www.zardexhaust.com/files_dyn/img_prod/256_o.jpg)
5. Ohlins TTX rear shock (http://www.ohlins.com/Motorcycle/Pro...6/Default.aspx)
6. Pazzo levers
7. Stomp Grip
8. Power Commander or TuneBoy (question for Patrick on that one).

That should get me 'race ready'!!!! Can't freaking wait to order this stuff and get it on!
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:03 PM   #2
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may want to upgrade the front forks while your at. GL
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if you want to race it make sure whether or not you need aftermarket engine case covers, in most cases you need em.
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also, if you don't have the patience to do it yourself have it safety wired.
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:17 PM   #5
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also, if you don't have the patience to do it yourself have it safety wired.
Yup, might as well have them do it while it is there!

CarbonJames got you on the engine covers... good point!
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Before you spend a dime, gotta ask, do you have a good helmet, high-end gloves, good 1 piece leathers, and high-end boots (like Sidi or A*)?

Don't buy any of that stuff above until you do IMHO.

I like the list you have though!
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personally i'd much rather have the tuneboy than the power commander. i've never liked the idea of piggyback add ons in cars, and it's no different with motorcycles. i'm not sure how much you've looked into this, but the tuneboy actually reprograms your stock ECU instead of "tricking" your stock ECU to do what it wants.

just my 2 cents...i'm not affiliated with them at all. other people can feel free to agree, but there's no question i'm going tuneboy for my bike.
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Before you spend a dime, gotta ask, do you have a good helmet, high-end gloves, good 1 piece leathers, and high-end boots (like Sidi or A*)?

Don't buy any of that stuff above until you do IMHO.

I like the list you have though!
Yup got the following gear:

Helmet : Arai Top of the line (Corsair II)
Leather : Full Leathers, decent but wouldn't mind upgrading at some point
Spine Protector : Full Spine protector from Dainese
Gloves : Decent Alpine Star gauntlet style
Boots : Top of the line Alpine Star (can't remember the style but full boots, see em on everybody)
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personally i'd much rather have the tuneboy than the power commander. i've never liked the idea of piggyback add ons in cars, and it's no different with motorcycles. i'm not sure how much you've looked into this, but the tuneboy actually reprograms your stock ECU instead of "tricking" your stock ECU to do what it wants.

just my 2 cents...i'm not affiliated with them at all. other people can feel free to agree, but there's no question i'm going tuneboy for my bike.
I am gonna caveat this with saying that I write and design software for a living. I have actually worked on software for after market PCM type add ons for cars. So this is what I know of how these systems typically work, I am pretty sure they are the same for motorcycles.

When a modern automobile starts it reads a file into the computer, basically does file I/O. The file is expected to be in a certain format, with key/value pairs delimited for inputs for things such as air, fuel, timing, gear ratios, etc.

This is done because the computer doesn't really have the storage space to save the data in a database. Nor would it make sense to build a database to hold a simple amount of information, especially if that is static. This also allows manufactures of third party products the ability to modify the file without giving away any information as to how the system that reads the file works. Additionally, this is why vendors other than the manufacturer can modify so many inputs on computer driven systems on automobiles.

Now that being said, there is another interface through the PCM on automobiles that is an API (applicaiton programming interface) which publishes data in real time (read only). This information is what is used by the mechanics to perform inspections, test for problems, etc. They are developed to open standards for this purpose.

To your point, Tune Boy probably comes packaged with diagnosis and real time monitoring interfaces built in for the Triumph. I would bet you could buy the same thing from a third party though, as the interface is public and follows a standard.

Simple answer here is that Power Commander will do the same thing that Tune Boy does in terms of creating a "mapping" file for the ECU to read at startup, and there can be no difference in how the file is written or the ECU will not work.

While I think what you are saying is valid, the original manf. would be a better choice for obvious reasons. Any third party vendor would be able to perform the exact same modifications.
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This is done because the computer doesn't really have the storage space to save the data in a database. Nor would it make sense to build a database to hold a simple amount of information, especially if that is static. This also allows manufactures of third party products the ability to modify the file without giving away any information as to how the system that reads the file works. Additionally, this is why vendors other than the manufacturer can modify so many inputs on computer driven systems on automobiles.


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This also allows the manf. of third party products the ability to modify the file without the automobile manf. giving away any information as to how the system that reads the file works. Additionally, this is why vendors other than the original manufacturer can modify so many inputs on computer driven systems on automobiles.
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I'm totally curious to see how the exhaust works out. I'm sick of the heat under my seat and cooking the rear shock. Can't tell from the pic if it will reduce cornering clearance or if it will interfere with my big feet.

Definitely get the engine covers. The Daytonas have been known to tweak the crankshaft from a light hit on the left side. Woodcraft has some nice covers that will take care of that.
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rider upgrade would make a bigger diff. then all that stuff combined.

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Triumph with standard zard exhaust, needs to be re-mapped though.
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ha ha... that is a given bro!

I think that racing / learning to race is a career lesson and will be on-going. I am signed up for Superbike School in 9/22 and 9/23 at Willow Springs CA. I may do the race program in October depending on how the school goes.

I will let you know what I think once I get back. I have heard good things, I like some of his tools too! Like the lean bike for example!

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